We watched Netflix's Forever… and let's just say, things got heated. Justin & Keisha's relationship? Justin's decision to skip school? His mom vs. dad's parenting styles? Quanny calling Justin a bum? Yeah… that turned into a full-blown debate on how we'd handle things if Justin was our son. The first 34 minutes are on YouTube & DSPs. The rest? You already know — Patreon exclusive.
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[00:00:00] You already know this motherfucker, shemuster the lover as always, Donald Peasley. Alongside the LaShawn. Welcome to- Nah, nah, nah, nah. This is a regular episode. Yeah, it's not in the real world. I thought it was in the real world. This is episode whatever, 320, whatever. Damn. Can't get too crazy then, huh? Nah, this is on the paywall though. Oh, so are we- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's still another episode, but it's not in the real world episode nine. This is- Alright, John.
[00:00:28] It wasn't in the real world episode. Alright, alright, alright, alright, cause- Yeah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We still behind that paywall. If you didn't say this, you behind that paywall. I'm gonna say, I guess I ain't gonna- Nah, nah, nah. This episode's called This Niggas A Bum. You a bum fam, bro. You a bum fam. Right, right, right. Absolutely. CVS. Anyways, let's get- How we get here, man? Let me- Uh, this week I was- I was watching this show on Netflix called
[00:00:58] Forever Forever and, um, In the midst of Forever. I don't know- Did Quan- How you even knew I was watching it? Or did I hit- You hit me up about it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hit Quan-Y up to see if he, uh, if he, uh, watched it. And, uh, back and forth let me know that this would be a great episode. So, I kinda- I let him go on his- His rants without pushback. But, um, I'll start from episode one, the intro episode. Uh, it was
[00:01:28] very reminiscent of my high school experience. For real, for real. Except the part where Elizabeth was never on tape. So, put that out there. Cause I don't want people to put two and two together. Um, but the, uh, the funny thing about it is the- My senior- The- Me and her was in high school together the whole four years. I never saw her till senior year. But, the year, uh, her junior year,
[00:01:58] she was dating the star linebacker of the football team. Mm-hmm. And, I was- Our football team sucked, but he was good. Mm-hmm. So, I guess her going from him to me kinda threw the school off. But, I was just, uh, uh, You was just that nigga. You was just that nigga. You was just that nigga. You was that nigga. I was just that nigga. Until he came back to the school. Oh.
[00:02:26] And then I kinda felt his presence in a- In a way where, ah, I see why. Cause, like, everybody was on his dick when he came back that- I don't know what he needed, but, um, he came back that year. And, yeah, let's start- Let's start with the show. Um, how y'all felt watching the show? From episode one? Yeah. Or the- Yeah. Alright. Episode- Episode- Episode- No, episode- Episode-
[00:02:54] No, I was just gonna say overall what I felt that we could break it down, but- Alright, alright. Let's do that. Overall- I feel like that nigga's a bum. Um, I think that he is a- I think of me and Justin. That, yes. I think that Justin is just- I don't know, bro. I- I don't know how you can have a life like that and be so lost. It's- it's insane, bro. I don't know how you can be so lost. You have options-
[00:03:20] Yo, bro, I told that to Quanee too, bro. You have to hear the part where I tell Quanee, yo, what about his ADHD? This thing- I don't get there! I don't get there! Quanee said- Oh, his little superpower? Yeah. I didn't say his little superpower. I'm not a little like Quanee. The nigga literally- You're not trying to just say something like that, bro. The nigga literally wrote in his essay, my superpower. He did though. He did though. So that is what I said. His superpower. But you- you'll say it in the sarcastic asshole way, though, but- I said- No. First- No, no, no. He's changing his view on it, so I'm also changing mine.
[00:03:49] I'm not- I didn't have another view on it. I'm just saying his superpower. Yeah. That's what he said. So I'm not looking at it as a disadvantage to you saying, and his ADHD. All right, he got it, but he's moving and operating as a- As he is. Yeah, he's regular. He's being regular. So I'm not thinking he's- I'm not putting that into play of anything. I'm just looking at his recent decisions that he's making. And since episode one, I don't know, bro. He's not on a good path. He doesn't-
[00:04:16] Like, he listens to a certain degree, but I think he just falls into this place of like, just, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, so he just spirals in this, I don't know, when you don't have to, and you don't need to, but you lean into it for whatever reason. Overall, that's what I feel. What's the context of his I don't knows that you felt like he kept spiraling into? The school-to-school? The school situation. Nigga don't know what he want to do. College, bro. He's 17, bro.
[00:04:43] But Kwani, yo, bro, that's the- You know what? I've also been 17, so let's understand. I've watched the series in two views, two perspectives. Me in his shoes and me as a- And me, what would I do if I was a parent? A parent, yep. And in both those perspectives, I understand the difficulties of whatever pressure he felt throughout the whole series.
[00:05:13] Oh, for sure. Whether it was, do I do this? Do I really want to do this because my parents want me to do this? I do, but I love it. Do I like music enough to really pursue it? Am I a ball player? Am I a ball player? Right, three? And yo, do I want to make this relationship work, so do I want to ditch my school to go to her school? I'm not like, he was people-pleasing a lot, that fucking- Oh, absolutely. Yeah!
[00:05:41] I'm like, yo, as I'm watching the show- How do y'all feel about it? As I'm watching the show, I'm like, yo, bro, I'm not going to lie, I can tell he gets anxiousness from his mom. Oh, that's big twins, nigga. She's making me so fucking nervous, I'm like- You know what really disappointed me about the mom? The scene where she peep game that the girl he like is talking to her ex over there, and you can see how sad he is. And when they got in the car, that was the perfect time to have a heart-to-heart conversation. Like, hey, you know, it's okay, you know what I'm saying?
[00:06:11] She kind of let it- I'm not going to lie. He said, like, yo, we got to go to practice. He said some shit. And she was like, yeah, we do. Nah, that's the perfect opportunity. I think she was angry, too, though. The thing about it, though, as we watch the show, bro, they don't have that dialogue. It's the pops. The pops is more common than she is. He saved a lot of- I can't front- I love the way he parent, though. I can't front- And I tell y'all all the time, that's how I want to parent. I want to be just like what happens. Nigga's like, you want him to be a man? Like, that nigga, go out and be a fucking man. No. He's like, yo, chill the fuck out, man. Chill the fuck out. Shit.
[00:06:41] I tell her shit. Put it on. Nigga. I record that shit. I record it. At that point, I say, oh, my nigga, I'll ask you. That's what I've been saying, yo. You gotta have that talk, bro. You can't just wiggle around it. That's the kind of parent I want to be. Yeah, me too. I say- That was my favorite part of the show, bro. Yeah, facts. The parenting, Paul. But you do make a good point. I think it's clear that the similarities between him and his mother were there, even from the
[00:07:09] personality and the behaviors to him going to Northwestern. It's like, all right. She was putting so much pressure on him throughout the whole thing. She was the first person I saw put doubt into the basketball dreams. She was the first person to question if, when he first introduced that he was talking to a girl, she automatically assumed she was a white girl. Yeah. And it was his father that was like, yo, go tell your mother that you told him to a black girl. It's going to change the whole shit. That's the only way he got confidence to do it was through his pops.
[00:07:39] So there's clearly a disconnect there, but they also have so many similarities that I can see how that has affected him and his growth. Now you've got another woman in his life, his girlfriend, Keisha, who has such a hold on him from the rip. Your first love usually do. Bro. My thing is... Why are you shaking your head, bro? She didn't do it on purpose. I'm not going to lie. It wasn't on purpose. It's more of like, yo, bold. That's who he lost his virginity to. They both lost it together, but it was just like, yo.
[00:08:08] I think it's not a bag. I'm like, that's sick as wild. But she was like, it's my first time talking to her. You're not bad there. You're not going out bad. She just goes with the yarmulke. Oh my God. Okay. I got a question. I got a question for her specifically. Keisha? Yes. Okay. If you are notorious for that, right? Notorious is a crazy... Notorious is a crazy word. Hold on. Notorious is a crazy word. She went for an... That's what I'm saying. In a movie theater.
[00:08:37] She changed schools for that because it was such an embarrassing moment for her. That was a scary part. For you to have a new opportunity at a new nigga and the first thing you do is go for his yack? I ain't going for her. She went straight for the nuts. Once he put the hand on the titty, she was like, oh, I'm horny. Let me suck his... You know what I mean? That's exactly what she did, bro. And seeing him, like, yo, when I was younger, I was a little awkward. I would say awkward shit. So when he said, yo, you're doing this because I bullshit you something, I said, fuck, I probably would have said some dumb shit like that too, bro. Like, you had to learn this shit.
[00:09:06] Like, yo, you're the certain shit. You got to think before you speak some time. And Mo Tom, he didn't even know the video existed. That's a fact. Because I'm sure he wouldn't have taken a shopping if he did. And then he did that shit again. He was... I think as a young boy... Well, she wasn't presented as a sly dog. That's what I'm saying. If she was. Like, if it would have came across like, oh, this is a girl going around, he wouldn't even have a computer. But his man's kind of at the party trying to prevent him from... You ever had friends like that? You ever had friends like that, though? That try to put you on to the... Nah, it's more of like, yo, oh, she a whole money. Be careful, money. Oh, I got a bunch of friends like that.
[00:09:36] 100%. I got mad friends like that. Yo, I fucking hate you. Me, no, I... Bro, I'm not gonna lie. If you think I'm being like... I'm not doing that. I'm perfect. I swear, I swear to you. I swear to you. I don't even know what you're talking about right now. That's how fucked up it is, though. That's how fucked up it is. He's gonna take you. He's gonna take me. But yeah, now I got a bunch of friends like that. Because I think... I think you need friends... You need friends to make you aware. Oh, okay. Let's talk about it. What are we talking about? Let's talk about it. What are we talking about? What part?
[00:10:06] The... The making of the aware part, right? LA is sick. What are we talking about? Even if you make him aware, he still wanna do... He still wanna pursue it. What's the point of making him aware? That's your man. You gotta tell him, I guess. There's no point, actually, once... Once the nigga makes the decision that I'm still going for it. Oh, I mean, me telling you is not a... That's just me telling you. Yeah, but if you don't understand... The thing is, if you don't understand... There's no seriousness in the severity, right?
[00:10:34] His mans probably thought that he was trying to get in there and get out, too. His mans ain't know how... No, his mans told him don't cuff that. His mans don't kill that. That's what I'm saying. Man, so him seeing her around with her is like, oh, enjoy that movie. He thinking, yeah, he about to... You know what I mean? Whole time, no, I love her, bro. And what's wrong with that? Nothing. It was nothing wrong with that. I understand young love and getting it and going full flesh. Why gotta be young? It can't be adult. He was 17. Alright, let's forward it. You see a man... Your mans is 27.
[00:11:04] Doing the same thing? I support that. Our last episode was about applying pressure. Yeah, nigga. Like, yeah. Even though she's known for... On the OF. You better hope... Oh, you see how you say it, bro? We gotta advance it 10 years later. We gotta take it to this, bro. 10 years later, she's a sex worker? She got a tape out there. A tape? Oh, my God. I wish we could pod. Yo, I think it's better as a child to have a girl with a sex tape than as an adult. Quanee, yo, bro.
[00:11:32] We gotta talk about that after the pod. Fuck. That's so funny. I'm gonna say it again. I think as a child... I'll say it. I'll say it. I'll say it. I'll say it. There was a girl... She shot her shot a while back. But she lived... Yeah. Yeah. I mean... Anyway, she live in Indiana, though. And, um... Well, damn. Nixon 7. She live in Indiana. And in the midst of... I guess talking to her... She had a link in her bio.
[00:12:03] Right? And I had clicked the link and it went straight to her OF. You're so curious, bro. She was being down? I never purchased to find out. I'm just... I'm sorry. I'm joking. I'm just... I'm joking. No use. So she can't do that for herself? Oh...
[00:12:36] I would say maybe a 7, 8. Okay. All right. You could get up out of there. It's 7, 8. Then stay with the fans. But what if I... You put your mans on. Like, let's say... Let's say... Because I always... Because even when you talk to a woman that's not from your state, she could come to New York and be a whole new person. You don't know... You don't know nothing about her, bro. I'm familiar with her work now. Right? And then let's say Joe was a subscriber to her OF and then he put me on. Like, yo, bro...
[00:13:06] You're not familiar with her game? You cuffing this, but like, yo... I pay a subscription to see that thing. I ain't gonna find out what the pussy look like. So do you let that discourage you if you fuck with her? Because clearly he ain't care. Justin ain't care. My man's no... But granted... I'm thinking from a 17-year-old perspective. He ain't care. He took her for her word. Like, yo, she was done dirty. She ain't know...
[00:13:34] She did that with the privacy of her man. Did that shit herself. Right. Like I said, I'm gonna keep saying it. I think it's easier as a child to kind of get over that. Yeah, I'm more forgiving as a younger person. As an adult, I think the circumstances would change, obviously. Are you making those bad decisions as an adult? Yeah. That's a bad decision. No, no, no. Some people get like... I mean, it's not a bad decision, but it's like, yo, bro. It's more of like a... Well, we're not talking about... We're talking about somebody on OnlyFans. Yeah. Doing this voluntarily. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit of a difference when I'm older and my man's who is like... That's my man. Like, we're not kids no more.
[00:14:04] Like, this is not something that could blow off in a couple years. Yeah. Like, we're about to be 30 with kids and shit. You coming to the... You coming to the fifth birthday party? I don't need you to say, you saw my wife or you saw my... Shit. We're not even doing that. I'm not having that. I've never even seen her. How did y'all feel about seeing all the back and forth? Like, all the chasings and all... Oh, that shit felt like a fucking movie, nigga. You fucked with it, though? Nigga, that shit was re... I've seen that movie a hundred times. Are you seeing it? What, getting blocked? I'm blocking. You know what I related to? Okay. My mom took my phone away the second week...
[00:14:33] No, the week that... The weekend that me and Elizabeth got together. For her? Because the day I asked her to be my girlfriend, I told my mom I was going to SAT prep. I didn't need SAT prep. Mm-hmm. But she was going... She went to the Dominicans to get her hair done. So I stayed with her to get her hair done the whole day. So my mom blowing my phone up like, yo, there's no way you still at SAT prep. It's like 8 o'clock. I didn't know the Dominicans took that long to do hair.
[00:15:01] So her pops ended up dropping me home. And my mom was like, that's not a cab. We were like, where you coming from? So then I told her the truth. So she was like, the fact that you lied to me, I'm taking your phone. Mind you, I just asked this girl to be my girlfriend four hours ago. So whole weekend, no phone. Cam and Jones. Yeah, whole weekend, no phone. So I go back to school Monday. Elizabeth, tight. That hit me all weekend. What was he doing? And I had to tell her like, yo. I got in trouble. Yeah. Tell you. But I love you, baby. Yeah, so yeah.
[00:15:30] But back then there was no social media. There was no... No, I'm lying. There was MySpace. There was MySpace and AIM back then. Yeah, facts. But yeah. So I related to that. That was mad triggering. Mad triggering. I wasn't mad at that. Like, that was a real... I feel like they got that part right. That was a real... I mean, they do that now. Girls block you and unblock you. Speed of life. He was kind of flopped getting the elementary friends to, you know, run down. The elementary friends? Yeah. He hit up all the friends that went to school with them to say unblocked. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:15:59] I thought that was flopped. Y'all going that far? No. No. But that was fine. Definitely not. You need to be unblocked. You're not going to make a campaign. I mean, I'm not going to broadcast it to the world, but I'm going to definitely get the closest friend. I'm going to hit somebody that I know can get this message. Didn't he hit up our best friend? The Chloe. Chloe, he did what he's supposed to do. And then he hit up his mans? Yo, let me... The same mans? Let me use your phone. They said, damn, thirsty? That's what he is. That shit remind me of Ruben. Shout out to Ruben. I'm behind the paywall, so all right.
[00:16:28] That shit remind me of Ruben. Ruben definitely used my phone to get unblocked before. The nigga literally said, yo, you being thirsty, my nigga. If your man sees some shit like that to you, you would have sit back like, yo, damn, maybe I'm one. Not that nigga. That's how you know the love is real. That nigga don't give a fuck how he looks. At that point, I don't even know why he was so... You know what I mean? Nothing was really built yet at that point. I feel like it was just a vibe. He definitely had an anxious attachment style. For sure. That was day three. That shit was too clingy, though. He met her at the party. They went out maybe the next day?
[00:16:58] I like that shit fast, bro. I think it was like next weekend. I like that shit. To the weekend? Yeah. It was next weekend or some shit like that. Okay, maybe that's enough time to follow up. But nigga's on FaceTime the whole time. He didn't even remember, shorty. That's what I'm saying. It's not like that was the one he wanted, bro. Keisha Clark. You know what I'm saying? That wasn't the one he wanted. That's how it usually works out, though. No, no. I'm saying like, she was like, I always liked you. She applied the pressure. And he was going head over heels like, damn, this is the one I needed my whole life.
[00:17:28] It's weird. I don't think he was the guy that was getting... He wasn't. He wasn't. Yeah, he wasn't. Can we judge him based off of that? No, bro. No. I'm not judging him at all because this is 16, 17. Got to remember, 16, 17. He's a 16-year-old kid. I'm not. You can't judge that, bro. So if we bring it back to our previous episode, do you feel like shorty was his muse? Dane, what would you say? Oh, no.
[00:17:58] No way. No way. I think she was his addiction. She would say she's the reason why he started making the music, though. If he didn't get his phone taken away, wouldn't be making the beat. He literally said it. Crazy, indirect muse, though. Because he fucked up by taking the car over to... Because of her, though. I think that was way be convincing your driving instructor, yo. Let me pull up to a school. That nigga's a fucking great liar, my nigga. I don't know why he said he's a bad liar. That nigga guy. He got... He romantic. He romantic, bro. That's not romantic, bro. Is that romantic or foolish to you, Corny?
[00:18:28] Everything that was Corny-esque, I'm like... That's flat on. Yeah. That's flat on. Convincing my driving instructor, yo, can we learn how to drive by this school so I can run into her? Oops. Oops. Nigga did it twice. I want to know how I feel like Corny flew across the country to come possibly see you this weekend. When he went to the VN. Oh, yeah. When they went to the VN. She took two buses in a row to bite my hole on them. Yeah, facts. I'm definitely having sex, too. You got to marry that, bro.
[00:18:58] That's it. I understand the ball. You got to marry... A chick that... And she put it on him. She ain't going to marry him. For a virgin... That would have... Yo, what you doing? The... The... The jeep scene where she leaning out the window. I'm like... No! You take some Christian hinges. Christian hinges. She's lying. The minute I see her hanging out the window... No. You don't fuck me. You're true freaking out. Shorty said, yo, hold on. I bring back. Got the nigga a towel. I said, a little rag. I said, hold on.
[00:19:28] Yeah, facts. You too experienced. He ain't getting a nigga a little knackered or nothing. He ain't getting his ass. Yeah, I hope... You know what? I hope that's revealed in season two that she was lying. That's another thing. I wish there was no season two. Oh, you just... Yeah, I think it's just that right there, though. I hate the way I should end it. I hate the way I should end it. Him being in a fucking CBS. What am I going to see? What the hell am I going to see him doing? What if you see him being a top-notch producer and then... What a nigga with mustard or something? Yeah, what if he's a producer and now he's going through fame and he ends up cheating on her because he's too popular?
[00:19:57] LA right next season. You know the same... It's the same writer from Girlfriends. Mara Kilbrock. Yeah. She got the show with Gabrielle Union. Oh, Mary Jane. Yeah, Mary Jane. She got a lot of heat. Yeah, she got some heat under her. She got a lot of heat. Yeah. So, I mean, like I said, it's possible that she could be out in D.C. finding another black man who's accomplished. Yeah. She's up hell. That's of course. It's setting us down. That's why he wanted... Honestly, they didn't get into that part. Like, they didn't say that.
[00:20:28] But I know that's what he was thinking, too. No, he did get into that. Because there was one time he was blowing up her phone. She finally picked up. He was like, oh, you already talking to your boyfriend? Oh, no, no. I'm saying, like, they didn't get... Like, that wasn't a whole theme. Yeah. It did pop up. But there's realities to that. The nigga also does want to be there to protect that relationship in that aspect, too. Like, I don't want no other niggas around my queen. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Which is interestingly enough, that's why I related to that kind of aspect, too.
[00:20:55] Because remember, I tell her all the time the Syracuse story. Yes, she wanted to go to Syracuse. No, she wanted to go to Syracuse. She wanted to go to Syracuse. Because you got in and... You know what I'm saying? You ain't want to be up there with the... With the gal. With Melo. You and Melo up there. I ain't gonna hold you. I did not think about other niggas, though. It was just something she wanted to do. I never... I promise you, I never really put in my mind that... You and Johnny Flint up there.
[00:21:25] Yeah. Competing over Elizabeth. Nah. I never thought about it. It was like, yo, she just want to go to this school so bad. So I'm like, I bet. So I understand that coming out of high school, not really having a direction on what you want to do. Yeah, you might be Justin. Not really. Think about it. Quarney didn't like that just now. He ain't no problem. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm talking about that school aspect. Yeah, in the school... Did you not come to school here because of your girl?
[00:21:55] What you mean? I was already in New York, bro. I'm not an immigrant. You know what I'm saying? You was gonna go to another school. You was gonna go to where? You decided to change what could have been your destiny for your woman. Yeah. Well, essentially. Essentially. Because remember, I got in and never went. That's what I'm saying. That could have been your destiny. I don't think so because it was never in my card to go. I think about the things that you tell me as a friend. So she told you she wanted to go. The things that you wanted out of yourself, bro? She wanted to go to Syracuse.
[00:22:22] But I'm telling you, at 17 years old, LaShawn didn't know what he wanted to major in. That's what I'm saying. He just finished school because that's what he was supposed to do. Elizabeth, I fuck with you, but you might have fucked up something. I'm serious. Because that could have been God. Elizabeth still don't know that I got into Syracuse to this day. Now you know. Yeah, to this day. So you don't know. Yeah. Now, I'm saying that because we talk about God sending messages and shit like that. I could have met Tyler early. That's true. We talk about God sending messages and all that stuff. Bro, that could have been that message right there.
[00:22:51] Because Syracuse is the top media school, right? And you didn't know that back then. Oh, yeah. Facts. Speedy went there. Yeah. It's a lot of niggas that came out of that Newman house. That new house. New house. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's in media. Yeah. That's a whole different thing. But then I would have never met y'all. Possibly. I always tell people that, bro. I would have probably never ended up at the job where I meet Don. You know what I'm saying? What's a good guy would have been out?
[00:23:20] That decision change of destiny, though. Damn. None of us would have met then. Yeah. Selfishly, but for you, if you think in hindsight, maybe for yourself. Yeah. LA would have been Stephen A. Smith. Right. It's possible. It's possible. So, going back to Justin, same thing for him. He changing his destiny. His shit could have been a new house. He could have went there, walked on, went to the league. It's possible. He could have saw some team. Yeah. Could have went there.
[00:23:50] He could have got developed. He could have went there and did his fucking music. Like his mother said. But thing of Bozzy, I understood when he was like, I don't want to be in another PWI. I was like, your bro is fucking, I'm already uncomfortable here, bro. I felt him on that, though. That's uncomfortable. I hear that. Go to fucking CBS then and be there forever, nigga. I hear for niggas. But that was, but he had a plan, though. You're going somewhere that is set up. Listen, listen to Quarty. He's taking the gap, though. He's going to say, yo, if it don't work, mom says it don't work out. I'm going to school. That nigga ain't going to no college, bro. It's not happening.
[00:24:19] Gap here, nigga, to focus on this music, to go. You're not, no, bro. But he got placement. He got one placement. One placement. At the end of the, uh. You know what I was saying to the screen, bro? I said, yo, music industry. Shout out to Ronnie. It's fickle, bro. There's no confirmation in a gap year that's going to make you. Like none, bro. The security is in school and the security is in playing basketball compared to music. Absolutely. If we're comparing all the things in front of him.
[00:24:48] Come on, bro. He did not make the right decision. I don't care if he's 15 or whatever. He won't be able to prove to his mom that he made enough progress to dash my destiny. I'm going to keep going. No matter how, no matter how many placements he gets, bro. It don't matter. The decisions can go away. It's to convince his mom, though. I mean, at the end of the day. So it's like. He got. He negotiated. He got to do a song on IG. He negotiated with his parents. He was like, yo, give me a year to see if I can get this shit cracking. If I can't. Yo, I'll go to the school. How you felt, Ronnie? That was a bad decision? That's what I said. Absolutely. Fucking Lulee.
[00:25:18] Terrible decision. I would have went to school. Absolutely. Well, for one. My mother went there. They know me already. Yeah, he already met the Dean. I literally just met the fucking Dean. The Dean on the walkie. I'm valid, nigga. I'm Gucci. Whatever I want to do here, it's lit. And I'm about to walk on and all this extra shit. Even if I don't want to do that. I ain't going to front. I'm still Gucci at this school. Niggas dead say you're going to walk on and play ball. Once she said that, she was like, I ain't going to lie. I'm going to that shit, bitch. Like, I'm going to this school. I'm not worried about no PWI. This is my future. The PWI show is a real. That's a huge deal breaker, though. I get them, though.
[00:25:48] The PWI show is a deal breaker, though. Everybody in that show knew their destiny and knew what they wanted to do. Or even if they didn't know, they knew what they wanted to do. So how do you feel about the pops, though? Bro, I was heartbroken when this nigga was talking about he want to go fucking do music. Nigga, you know what your pops just said? No, no, no. I'm talking about Keisha pops. And Keisha pops was like, oh, you're going to do where the rest of the music at? Is that what you're going to do with your life? I didn't like that. I didn't like the pops. But it's a real question, bro. What is, okay, is it just beats or is it just this? Like, you don't, he didn't even know what it is that he wanted to do. His approach was ass.
[00:26:17] But the line of questioning wasn't that bad. And it's impressive, right? Because I feel like Keisha never wavered. No matter how much love she was. She's going to Howard, nigga. I'm going to Howard. No matter how much she didn't want to fucking that out, she never wavered, bro. And she's how old? Hold on, hold on. Let me go. A black girl. Let him kill. Let me time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. I think the household dynamic plays a difference. It's totally different, yeah. She saw her mother struggling. Oh, that's why she never wavered. Yeah, I'm like this. Yeah. He had the ability to do it.
[00:26:47] Let me finish. His dad struggled. Let me finish. He has the ability to do it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You bugging, you bugging. You bugging, you bugging, you bugging. Look where he live at. Look where he live at, though. Let me tell you. Let me tell you why he's bugging. Quick, quick, quick, quick. Keisha is seeing her mother struggle. She's literally seeing her doing the math on everything. By the time Justin never saw his father struggle in New York. Yeah, yeah. Because his dad. He was, exactly. So it's a different relatability.
[00:27:14] Keisha was literally willing to go against her man's back to train with a Nike trainer with the possibility of track. She could not explain that to her man, so she rather, like the concept of, yo, I really fuck with you, babe, but my ex, exactly. Her survival mode is the reason why, if she had the coastline, the same lifestyle as Justin, who knows if she makes those same decisions. I think she still does, but yeah.
[00:27:40] So the time, the, the, the, because even, even, even when the Nike coach was like, yo, why are you going Howard for track? She said, it's not about track. It's about who I become as a Howard woman and what direction that. She knew what was up. Exactly. That is because of the survival mode that she was put in. Yeah. And the guilt that she felt losing her scholarship at her high school for her mom now to pay. She's trying to, she's trying to pay it forward.
[00:28:06] So her, so it's not the same decision making as Justin making a choice on direction and Keisha making. There, there, there's some, there. Like to know the college you're going to is your mom's album model. Yeah. I wish I had that. And we, and we ain't hear no, oh, he's getting a full Roger. Nigga, it ain't had, nigga say, yo, y'all pay the tuition yet? Yeah. Her mom didn't have to say, her mom didn't say that shit. Her mom didn't say that shit. I think that's unfair to say like, oh, uh, Keisha never, uh, Keisha drive was a little bit different than Justin.
[00:28:34] That was the luxury of the parents that he has. Nigga had a, nigga had a Jeep for me to senior my nigga. That crew. Okay. So shouldn't that provide you with some fucking direction of where you want to go? Sometimes it actually don't. Well then. Because you have the space to choose. So much. You got options. Yeah. You got options. I'm going to be a separate dad if I want to. She and your black parents make it and like thriving in what they've made. And your dad talking about, I'm doing this and I'm a competitor that I have a new restaurant coming up and this and that. Nigga's about to have five restaurants. Like, oh, that's good.
[00:29:03] The fact that it was cold. What you telling me? I love that shit. Nigga, you don't see what's in front of you. But you don't see what's in front of you. You know how he, you know what's crazy about it? I kind of was like, is he still playing ace from Peyton? How you sound? In Peyton Full. Like, is this ace surviving? Because why? Why am I going to go there? Is this ace surviving? And he moves out the hood? Out of New York? Yeah. Because they kept the New York team. Exactly. Harlem. Was he from Brooklyn? I don't know.
[00:29:33] Because he defined Linden. I think he was from Brooklyn though. Oh, okay. It's still fly. Yeah, it's still how they kept the New York team with him. I would say this about Justin some more. Because it's harping on what we just said. Those options and him having... Like, Quan, you always talk about, oh, what's the episode we just did? Not we just did, but we did about lineage, right? That fallback plan and not...
[00:30:01] And knowing that, yo, if you fuck up to the worst of the worst, that mom and dad will have something there for you to not have to, like, sleep in a car. That's my problem with that line of thinking. What? They didn't make... Bro, you have to carry this shit on. It doesn't stop with you. They got another son. You don't get to... Right. You have to be a role model for him too? You don't get to just fucking fuck off just because he's this. Okay, but what? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We don't know. The show... You call him a bomb. I'm not allowed. He's not fucking off, Kojo. We don't know if he makes it.
[00:30:31] We don't know. But is he not fucking off? I think that's why it's in season two because we have those questions, though. No, he's fucking off. I don't have those questions. I don't think he's fucking off. I think... No, I'm talking about the... Is he going to make... We don't know if he's going to make it. Oh, yeah. We absolutely need to see that. But, Quanee, you got to understand, the nigga has options now, right, in front of him, right? That's all I saw from him. He had options. He made a choice, though. It wasn't the... It wasn't to us and the viewer wasn't the best choice, but it is a choice. I'm going to put my all into it.
[00:30:59] I respect niggas who have talent who do trust that and are willing to bet on that. So he did... He's doing that. He's also under this pressure of having to prove to two other people that it don't really matter to. He can say, yo, fuck both of y'all. I'm going to do this forever. He could say that, too. So, Quanee, where is he? And make his own way. It's not a... It's... And he could go on to be who the fuck you think he might be. That don't mean he's fucking off. He's only working at CBS because he said, I need money. I need their own money. I need their own money. I need their own money. He's going to be using that. They got money. Yeah.
[00:31:27] He don't got to work at CBS either. Exactly. He could build a studio in the crib and get everything he needs right there. So, Quanee, what happened to your thought process of betting on yourself? That's a bet. I'm going to bet on myself at what makes sense and what's going to propel me in life. It is... For me, personally, it wouldn't be that. It wouldn't be music. We know how you... It would literally be continuing on with my parents. What if it was fashion? In terms of what I'm doing now, so I'm going to be left behind about the picture. He was doing fashion. Let's say he dubbed school for fashion. No. You're not doing that. You wouldn't do it? Sheee. No.
[00:31:57] I ain't going to front. No, no. Quanee, no. I don't want him to front. The reason I... Quanee would go get security. What are you talking about? The reason why... This is real life. The reason why I fucked with the dad... What are you talking about, bro? Because the dad was like, yo, bro, he need to learn how to fall. If he's going to fall, learn how to fall, but I'm going to help him back up. And it's no more of that shit after that, bro. That's why the year? Cool. After that... Even his uncle kept it real with him. That was a fucked up way, but he was right, though. Niggas got... Somebody got a trophy. Niggas said NBA. Niggas said, uh, he might find another role. He was a trophy. He was high.
[00:32:27] That nigga was mad sassy, man. Nigga like, yo, what? You didn't have to get up going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's high as fuck. Now you're going to bring it up. Yeah, we know. Somebody got to say it, bro. And then he literally said that. He said somebody got to say it. Somebody has to say it, bro. Time is running on. You kind of got to pick something. He was on the bench. You talking about D1? I ain't going to front. He got violated, though. I like that he put himself in the game. I said, that shit had me excited, though. When he hit him with the pump, man. Stupid. Look at his back, man. And it was against him? Yeah.
[00:32:56] I'm a pure hate, bro. Oh, my gosh, bro. But then, that's another thing that Justin was realizing. Like, yo, after that PTA meeting and the political, he realized, yo, the school just using my parents for the bread. They not trying to put me in the best position. So, I'm going to put myself. He's shown signs where his back is against the wall. He'll end up making the right decision. He'll break through. He just need a little push somehow, someway. And it's all kind of low-key inspired by Shorty. Oh, yeah.
[00:33:26] Because she was at that game. He's sitting on the bench. Imagine if she wasn't there. He would have never attempted that shit. Now, he wouldn't have known, right? He wouldn't have known if she didn't show up. Like, he wouldn't have known to do that if she didn't show up. Yeah, facts. I think that motivating factor is there. Plus, he just has to do that. Yo, she came for that nigga, too. That's in the hate. So, all right. But you would be on Justin's side if he wanted to get his money up for her. True. No. No, nigga.
[00:33:54] She's going to Howard to get her future together. Nigga, go to Northwestern and get your future together. Y'all are only but a couple miles apart. Calm down. Y'all have phones. I track me to do the distance. Y'all have phones. It's 11 hours, bro. For me, it's a dub. I'm not doing distance shit. But for you, if it's so serious, my nigga, you willing to throw your shit away to go, just compartmentalize. She's right there. Just FaceTime her. You can visit. It's okay. Don't like, calm down, bro. She actually, yeah. She gave him options, too.
[00:34:25] She said she would pick up summertime programs. Intern, yeah. Like, you don't need to be in this deep, dark, depressive state because I don't want to go to college. My dad's a little bit. Yeah, but you don't know. You don't know. Now I'm going to ask you. Why are you coming to college with me, nigga? You were going somewhere else. As a father, you see your son depressed. You're going through his heartbreak. How are you going to navigate that, Kwani? Well, I would hope to have set my son up for some type of wit in this field. You did it. I didn't. I failed his father.
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