Episode 295: Being Valued

[00:00:01] Cameras on

[00:00:04] Cameras on

[00:00:04] Audio running and all that

[00:00:08] I'm just saying, you love everything

[00:00:09] No worries, it's not gonna be in the pod anyway

[00:00:12] But if we do like Twitch

[00:00:16] That is no editing

[00:00:19] So everybody knows that you know

[00:00:21] You know what the thing is, I don't mind saying what I'm gonna say

[00:00:24] I can't talk about this

[00:00:25] I could get back in soup forever

[00:00:27] No

[00:00:28] Yeah you gotta tell my back to her

[00:00:29] No, I'm talking about like

[00:00:31] You see what you just said about the young lady

[00:00:33] Once we start Twitching

[00:00:36] Oh they'll report us

[00:00:38] It's not a report, there's just

[00:00:40] There's no way to take it out

[00:00:42] Cause we're being live streamed

[00:00:44] But that's for

[00:00:44] I talk about the show a really good part

[00:00:50] It's a pretty good part

[00:00:51] I'm like 4.5 minutes

[00:00:54] I mean it's

[00:00:56] It's common knowledge

[00:00:57] Unless she got a fat ass

[00:01:00] A lot of them with fat asses

[00:01:02] Can't really rock

[00:01:06] It's okay

[00:01:06] Who's thinking that this is wrong?

[00:01:08] It's okay, I really bad

[00:01:10] Let's do something like in a five minute mile

[00:01:12] Don't go together

[00:01:17] I ain't gonna tell you you right

[00:01:20] I won't tell the truth about you

[00:01:24] Boom

[00:01:32] I'm loving the setup right now man

[00:01:35] Might take my medicine, it's too much better

[00:01:36] You think so?

[00:01:38] Yeah, you used to put

[00:01:39] Now? I'm around five

[00:01:41] Yeah, I think you said

[00:01:45] Yeah

[00:01:46] I should have won my medal today

[00:01:48] What?

[00:01:48] You should have, I was thinking about that

[00:01:50] I already left the house on there so

[00:01:52] Everything Don too I feel

[00:01:53] I just be shaking my head though

[00:01:54] Like I'm proud and I'm like

[00:01:56] Yo what's for good with this nigga bro?

[00:01:57] He's tired of his life

[00:02:00] Too much

[00:02:01] He's cared about his life

[00:02:02] I think I thought I had heart problems

[00:02:04] Really?

[00:02:05] No, no way

[00:02:06] When?

[00:02:07] I said I said we're doing heart competitions

[00:02:08] You know you think so

[00:02:09] I thought that was just anxiety

[00:02:11] And I noticed it was anxiety after all

[00:02:13] I was about to say say shit for me

[00:02:17] I'm asthmatic and I'm like

[00:02:19] You asthmatic?

[00:02:20] Yeah

[00:02:20] You should play ball

[00:02:21] I know

[00:02:22] I'm growing bronchitis in my lungs

[00:02:24] Secret Ranglin

[00:02:25] Yeah, I'm great

[00:02:26] I'm great now

[00:02:26] And I haven't used my inhaler since 7th break

[00:02:29] You was one of them wheezy niggas?

[00:02:31] I wasn't

[00:02:32] Never that bad

[00:02:33] I had an asthma attack at summer camp in my sleep

[00:02:36] And that was the last time I had my training

[00:02:38] You went to summer camp?

[00:02:40] You went to summer camp?

[00:02:41] You went to summer camp?

[00:02:41] Oh no you ain't

[00:02:41] You got a good family

[00:02:42] You're awesome

[00:02:44] Clarence Ferris had a real good family

[00:02:46] So no, actually so 1199 was our home insurance

[00:02:48] They sent all the kids from the hood to camp for free

[00:02:51] This nigga don't make it sound

[00:02:52] I'm telling you

[00:02:53] I met a lot of niggas

[00:02:55] I met a lot of some real niggas out there

[00:02:56] That's how niggas live a good life

[00:02:57] I'm gonna go into summer camp

[00:02:58] I ain't never get a chance

[00:02:59] It's always

[00:03:00] It's always the hood niggas right?

[00:03:02] Hold on, hold on

[00:03:03] I was a bad kid right?

[00:03:04] Yo

[00:03:04] Yo

[00:03:05] I'm about to ring you

[00:03:06] I don't know what that'll ring but I'm at your front door

[00:03:09] Alright, I'mma just tell Siri to open the front door and take it to the roof

[00:03:13] So you're close

[00:03:14] This nigga is just a

[00:03:15] Yo, I ain't gonna throw you a bad bitch for that one

[00:03:18] Front door?

[00:03:20] I ain't gonna say Siri first

[00:03:22] I think I'm gonna probably press the button

[00:03:23] It is unlocked

[00:03:25] Would you rather that or a doorman?

[00:03:27] A doorman

[00:03:27] A doorman

[00:03:29] I ain't gonna lie

[00:03:30] A doorman

[00:03:30] Cause anybody

[00:03:31] Well, let me not say that all right

[00:03:33] But um

[00:03:34] Imagine oh man

[00:03:35] Imagine if crazy was to pull up on you one day and just find out where you live at

[00:03:38] I mean crazy

[00:03:39] I'm talking about

[00:03:40] Bronx crazy?

[00:03:42] Nah

[00:03:42] I'm scared

[00:03:44] Nah

[00:03:45] We talking about crazy from years ago

[00:03:47] We talking about like

[00:03:50] Evil

[00:03:50] Evil

[00:03:51] Yeah

[00:03:51] That's what you call her

[00:03:52] Yeah, Bronx crazy

[00:03:53] Bronx crazy

[00:03:55] What did you talk to?

[00:03:56] You're fat

[00:03:56] Oh yeah, I mean yeah, nah that one is

[00:03:58] Yeah, she deserved that one

[00:04:00] 100%

[00:04:00] You guys having a doorman don't really do shit if you're doing a pussy

[00:04:03] The Quanti issue?

[00:04:03] What the hell's going on?

[00:04:05] Oh, y'all niggas is mad

[00:04:06] You wanna get the open door?

[00:04:07] No

[00:04:07] Please

[00:04:10] He just stared at the nigga like he was trying to get in here

[00:04:13] I had a very problem

[00:04:14] Yo, Vic really wanna come on the pod, he told me yesterday man

[00:04:16] Yo, tell Vic pull up then

[00:04:17] What Vic you talking about?

[00:04:18] Vic still in Queens?

[00:04:20] No, he live in Jersey

[00:04:21] What Vic are we talking about?

[00:04:22] Uh

[00:04:23] V and Smooth

[00:04:24] Huh?

[00:04:25] V and Smooth, uh, Tear

[00:04:26] Yeah, niggas say Tear

[00:04:28] He say yo, I like, I like Quanti on the pod and all that

[00:04:31] He was telling me

[00:04:32] They got a collab

[00:04:34] They do?

[00:04:35] Quanti and Vic

[00:04:36] I would like to

[00:04:37] When the club is this?

[00:04:38] Oh like I'm just close

[00:04:39] Yeah, I would love to see

[00:04:40] Like, oh yeah

[00:04:40] Cause they kinda like

[00:04:41] They got the same kind of style

[00:04:42] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:04:43] I would love to see that

[00:04:44] Once I started wearing Sandeer around Vic

[00:04:46] He was always talking about it like

[00:04:48] And I told him to go to uh, Quanti maybe second

[00:04:50] Second or third

[00:04:51] Third pop up shop

[00:04:52] Preach was supposed to be

[00:04:53] Yeah

[00:04:54] Preach downstairs for sure

[00:04:55] Preach bros down he downstairs

[00:04:57] I don't wanna leave

[00:04:58] And then I gotta take the fuck back up

[00:04:59] Now you, uh, I do

[00:05:00] No, I mean I'm right here

[00:05:05] Yeah, look at that

[00:05:07] Yeah, I think it's real

[00:05:08] Where you was at just now, Quanti?

[00:05:09] Why?

[00:05:10] Parking?

[00:05:11] Nah, where you was at?

[00:05:12] You say you was

[00:05:12] Where you went to?

[00:05:14] All right, all right

[00:05:15] Freeport?

[00:05:17] So, though

[00:05:18] I mean, oh he was on that side

[00:05:20] Bagged, don't stop

[00:05:21] It's first

[00:05:22] I ain't know they do Saturdays too

[00:05:23] Yo, Skrulls sit down

[00:05:25] I'm like, let, let Quanti do it

[00:05:27] Yeah, cool

[00:05:28] We still recording

[00:05:29] It's flopped

[00:05:29] Oh, it's cold

[00:05:31] The second I said

[00:05:32] This motherfucker's gonna get the door

[00:05:33] He is though

[00:05:34] What the fuck you eating?

[00:05:35] Boom

[00:05:36] You killing him?

[00:05:37] You taking no rice?

[00:05:38] You taking no rice?

[00:05:39] You doing smell like that

[00:05:40] At 11 o'clock?

[00:05:41] What you eating?

[00:05:42] Here you go

[00:05:43] I keep telling you stop

[00:05:45] Nigga put

[00:05:45] I'm using that beef patty

[00:05:48] We good

[00:05:50] Right there

[00:05:51] You got shit?

[00:05:52] I ended up driving, bro

[00:05:56] Nah, we good

[00:05:56] I caught you recording, nigga, call up

[00:05:58] My dad gave me the call

[00:06:00] Nigga

[00:06:01] I'm sorry, bro

[00:06:03] He was complaining too

[00:06:05] That niggas was in the same spot yesterday

[00:06:06] Why didn't y'all just talk about this together yesterday?

[00:06:08] For a little bit

[00:06:10] Scrutty

[00:06:10] What am I gonna do?

[00:06:11] Your brother

[00:06:13] Damn, nigga, it's probably

[00:06:14] LA gonna have to cut out fucking eight minutes

[00:06:16] Oh, we're getting it

[00:06:17] I got shit

[00:06:18] Oh, we're leaving that on the pod

[00:06:19] Oh, we're leaving that on the pod

[00:06:21] Nigga take the browns to the Super Bowl

[00:06:23] We gotta get shit on the pod, nigga

[00:06:24] Yo, the bathroom right next to the right

[00:06:25] Right next to the right

[00:06:27] You gonna go out of both the community bathroom?

[00:06:29] Yeah

[00:06:30] Not his

[00:06:31] I cleaned up

[00:06:32] I cleaned up

[00:06:32] I did a nice cleaning yesterday

[00:06:34] Yo, you have to clean your bathroom so good

[00:06:36] That you don't wanna use it

[00:06:38] Like, I came upstairs to pee

[00:06:40] Hey, this ain't a problem

[00:06:41] I ain't gonna lie

[00:06:42] I had to pee the lady over the other day

[00:06:43] Looks a mac living there

[00:06:45] I had to figure it out, nigga

[00:06:47] Nigga says pee on the toilet

[00:06:48] Nigga says pee on the toilet

[00:06:49] Nah

[00:06:50] Nigga so only by

[00:06:51] Just wash it down

[00:06:53] Nigga so only by taking this shit in my bathroom gonna be me

[00:06:56] Nah, you ain't taking this shit here, bro

[00:06:58] I ain't gonna lie

[00:06:59] You got

[00:06:59] I ain't gonna from pinch it

[00:07:00] Yo, mummify it, bro

[00:07:01] Pinch your big toe, man, nigga

[00:07:02] I ain't gonna lie

[00:07:04] Squat

[00:07:04] Or squat

[00:07:05] Nigga said squat

[00:07:06] Now she gon bloop

[00:07:06] Ain't no pee on the toilet

[00:07:08] I ain't gonna lie

[00:07:09] Pee on the toilet seat

[00:07:11] Oh, they

[00:07:11] Wipe it in the community, Jordan?

[00:07:14] What's all soap?

[00:07:15] You should go like this

[00:07:16] Today

[00:07:17] Yeah, thank you, brother

[00:07:18] It's crazy

[00:07:19] That's just a lack of thought

[00:07:21] Could you always be

[00:07:21] Yeah

[00:07:23] Fuck that, nigga

[00:07:24] Let me know if you're ready

[00:07:25] Y'all ready?

[00:07:25] Yeah, facts

[00:07:26] I mean shit

[00:07:27] Why didn't fuck the intro?

[00:07:28] Nigga, you already know this motherfucker

[00:07:29] Smokes for your lover is always

[00:07:30] Donald

[00:07:31] Alongside of LaShawn

[00:07:32] It's never beautiful

[00:07:33] I like that you back to yourself

[00:07:34] Oh

[00:07:35] It's never beautiful

[00:07:36] I like the laughter

[00:07:37] The ghetto

[00:07:37] Back in mode, bro

[00:07:38] It's never beautiful

[00:07:39] Hey, NYC

[00:07:40] What happened?

[00:07:42] Keep going, dog

[00:07:44] I know some bullshit, so he's good

[00:07:46] Never beautiful day

[00:07:48] NYC

[00:07:48] Niggas is wilder today already

[00:07:49] Yo, the fellas in the building

[00:07:51] JB in the building

[00:07:52] Joe in the building

[00:07:53] Preach in the building

[00:07:54] Quanny in the building

[00:07:55] It's a full house today, man

[00:07:56] Make some fucking noise

[00:07:57] Make some fucking noise

[00:07:58] That's why I like the

[00:07:59] Yeah, we activated today

[00:08:00] I got a little hangover

[00:08:02] So forgive me

[00:08:03] Really?

[00:08:04] Yeah, um

[00:08:05] We living life

[00:08:07] How's everybody feeling today, though?

[00:08:09] I'm good

[00:08:10] I'm

[00:08:11] Fripped dog

[00:08:12] We got more people coming?

[00:08:13] Oh shit

[00:08:14] Damn

[00:08:14] It's really a full house today

[00:08:16] It's a packed house today

[00:08:16] It's really a full house today

[00:08:17] Shoulda brought the drone in here, nigga

[00:08:19] I brought everybody in this bitch

[00:08:20] Feeling good though, man

[00:08:22] What's up, man?

[00:08:23] Feeling good, man

[00:08:23] Shit, I ain't see y'all in a

[00:08:25] In a week or something

[00:08:26] A week or something?

[00:08:27] It's been a month, dude

[00:08:29] Damn

[00:08:30] Yo, just use the bathroom, bro

[00:08:31] Just go use the bathroom

[00:08:32] I can't use that

[00:08:34] It's already fucked up

[00:08:36] So you gon' just fuck it up more?

[00:08:38] LA Letterman, bro

[00:08:39] Nah, nah

[00:08:42] Nigga not my

[00:08:44] Nigga trying to drop a stinky load of nigga crib

[00:08:48] Plus companies there

[00:08:49] What's going on, LA?

[00:08:50] What's going on, man?

[00:08:51] Talk to me

[00:08:52] Shit, man

[00:08:53] Shit

[00:08:54] Shit, man

[00:08:55] That's funny

[00:08:56] He said he had the longest month of his life

[00:08:57] It's the longest week of my life

[00:08:59] To keep it honest with you

[00:09:00] It's a fact

[00:09:00] What you mean?

[00:09:01] You hit him

[00:09:02] Nah, I'm good

[00:09:03] I'm good

[00:09:04] I'm probably not high on

[00:09:05] Nah, I'm good right now

[00:09:05] I flew 70 hours

[00:09:07] Damn

[00:09:08] Damn

[00:09:09] Might as well be a pilot

[00:09:10] At this point

[00:09:11] Yeah

[00:09:11] Shit, though

[00:09:12] Nigga might as well be a pilot

[00:09:13] That check gonna be beautiful

[00:09:15] My check gonna look like a pilot check

[00:09:17] I tell ya

[00:09:17] Don't look at the taxes

[00:09:19] Yeah, I'm not

[00:09:20] My check looks

[00:09:22] My check is gonna look so good

[00:09:23] That I don't even care about the taxes

[00:09:24] Oh shit, alright

[00:09:26] Donald Trump

[00:09:27] Yeah

[00:09:30] Don't niggas

[00:09:30] Big Queens

[00:09:31] Uh

[00:09:34] Shit in me

[00:09:34] Alright, we not doing that

[00:09:36] We not

[00:09:36] We not shouting that nigga out

[00:09:38] Let's not do that

[00:09:39] Let's not do that

[00:09:39] What made the week a little hard is

[00:09:41] I had caught a stomach bug

[00:09:43] Oh

[00:09:43] So

[00:09:44] That shit was bad

[00:09:46] Monday

[00:09:46] Preach

[00:09:47] Monday

[00:09:49] Caught that mat

[00:09:50] Caught that mat

[00:09:50] Caught that mat itself

[00:09:51] My stomach was matted up, boy

[00:09:53] You know what it's from?

[00:09:55] Yo

[00:09:55] The

[00:09:56] Uh

[00:09:57] The place Sybil's

[00:09:59] Word?

[00:10:00] Damn

[00:10:00] What you ate?

[00:10:01] I had ordered

[00:10:02] You go that shit every week for real?

[00:10:04] Nah, I ordered a pan of food Sunday

[00:10:06] Uh

[00:10:08] To meal prep

[00:10:09] Ate that Sunday night

[00:10:11] Monday morning, bro

[00:10:13] Stomach just running

[00:10:14] RUNNING, bro

[00:10:16] That's how it be

[00:10:17] I thought you should pop us

[00:10:18] Run away, run away

[00:10:18] Nah, nah

[00:10:19] It was bad though

[00:10:20] Cause like I had

[00:10:21] I caught a fever

[00:10:22] Damn

[00:10:23] You got sick?

[00:10:24] Like when we was on the phone

[00:10:25] You were sick?

[00:10:26] I was dying for a

[00:10:27] I heard a little bit in your voice, bro

[00:10:28] I felt like

[00:10:29] I talked about the

[00:10:30] Did the food taste good or was like

[00:10:31] It was just

[00:10:32] Nah, the food was fine

[00:10:33] It was just food poisoning

[00:10:34] Oh

[00:10:35] I caught food poisoning from Sybil's

[00:10:37] You ain't going back there now

[00:10:37] Never

[00:10:38] Damn

[00:10:39] That's the bad part

[00:10:40] Nah, nah, I don't want food

[00:10:41] That be fucked up, yo

[00:10:42] Cause food be good

[00:10:43] But then you do something like that

[00:10:44] Bro, yeah, you fuck some shit up

[00:10:45] Yeah, I caught food poisoning from Sybil's

[00:10:47] Shout out to my nurse though

[00:10:48] She with me back to health

[00:10:54] Nigga's the next plate, man

[00:10:55] Yo

[00:10:56] What's up though, man

[00:10:57] Front door

[00:10:58] Yo, boy

[00:10:58] What the fuck is going on, James Bond?

[00:11:02] Shit

[00:11:03] Nah, so while I was sick

[00:11:06] Funny

[00:11:06] I'm in bed

[00:11:07] Just scrolling

[00:11:08] And I see

[00:11:09] My man, Kojo

[00:11:11] He tweeted something about being valued

[00:11:14] And let me tell you something

[00:11:15] Ain't nothing worse

[00:11:16] Than being sick and alone

[00:11:18] Oh

[00:11:19] Fuck

[00:11:20] So

[00:11:21] I don't know

[00:11:22] I don't know if Kojo was a

[00:11:24] If that was an emotional tweet

[00:11:25] But it made me emotional

[00:11:27] And I started thinking about

[00:11:29] Damn, am I valued in life?

[00:11:32] Cause this shit ain't no joke

[00:11:37] So

[00:11:38] So

[00:11:39] First and foremost

[00:11:39] Where did that tweet stem from, bro?

[00:11:41] Ironically, Preach has walked out

[00:11:42] But I was in the studio with Preach

[00:11:44] Last week

[00:11:46] And

[00:11:47] We were just bonding over music

[00:11:49] And

[00:11:50] Tomlis Biz was in the building as well

[00:11:51] Shout out to me

[00:11:52] Rain was in there as well

[00:11:53] Shout out to me

[00:11:54] And we were just having very little

[00:11:55] Organic music conversations

[00:11:57] And

[00:11:58] Biz

[00:11:58] Was talking to me

[00:11:59] That's the first time me and Biz

[00:12:01] Ever really like had like

[00:12:02] You know

[00:12:02] Like one on one conversation

[00:12:04] About music and stuff like that

[00:12:05] And

[00:12:06] He gave me my flowers

[00:12:08] And I didn't know he had flowers for me

[00:12:11] And

[00:12:12] Can I get one thing?

[00:12:14] I got it

[00:12:15] And

[00:12:16] I also didn't know that

[00:12:17] I even had a

[00:12:19] Kind of any type of imprint or impact on anything that he was doing or anything like that

[00:12:24] Yeah

[00:12:26] So when he made these comments and when Preach was taking my suggestions on like certain things I wanted to do with the music and all that stuff

[00:12:33] Cause they working on his album and I had no reason to, you know, be like a part of that cause they already halfway done but they started taking my input and I was like, damn I feel valued in this room like I just wanted to be in the studio just to be around some music and they utilize like

[00:12:48] I guess what they feel I'm worth so

[00:12:51] I felt like, damn, I feel good like being in this room and feeling like, yo, I'm worth something to people that already I know fuck with me but it was just like it felt good to get that reassurance

[00:13:01] Yo, have you ever felt like

[00:13:03] I don't wanna pivot too fast but I ain't even write this down. I just really just remember the tweet.

[00:13:08] You ever felt valued in a way where it makes you question the lack of value in other places? So for example, I, you meet this for the way I have a first formal conversation and realize like, oh shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm valued here. And they make you realize, damn, well how he, somebody I haven't been around like that but the people that I feel like should or I don't feel

[00:13:36] Yeah. Do you feel like people take you for granted? Yeah, yeah. I think that's where that would go, right? You sit there and be like, yeah, somebody taking me for granted or something like this, people in your life who you've known for X amount of years who have ample opportunity to reassure you of your value in their life and they don't do that shit. Like what if, what if, what if they show it in a different way though?

[00:13:55] You just gotta be able to feel it though. What's the point of value? What if you're in your own world to the point you know, you don't notice it though?

[00:14:01] That's, that's, that's some looking in the mirror type, type shit right there. I feel like there's a lot of, ah, what if your value has increased and they just haven't noticed it?

[00:14:09] Ooh, that's a little shit. It's like remember how I used-

[00:14:11] I mean, people, people would treat you the same way.

[00:14:13] You say you like this?

[00:14:14] Like this girl.

[00:14:14] Now people would treat you the same way though, not noticing that you've grown.

[00:14:18] Yeah.

[00:14:19] Mmhmm. That's true.

[00:14:20] They, they, they used, they used to the old five of you, not the 20, 20, 25 of you my nigga like.

[00:14:24] It's like say like, like you with you Dom. Like you've grown with like, you know, your videography and your photography.

[00:14:29] But what if a nigga ain't really, don't really notice that? And they're like nah, like let me see if I get down for $50 for some shit.

[00:14:35] Oh yeah, the nigga did it the other day.

[00:14:36] Yeah, yeah.

[00:14:36] I said nigga my real, I said no nigga, we not doing that no more papa.

[00:14:39] Like your value has increased. It's just crazy.

[00:14:41] Yeah. So maybe she's not in the right rooms anymore. Maybe like motherfuckers need a reminder.

[00:14:46] Yeah. That's true.

[00:14:47] I should remind motherfuckers to leave the room. That's a good one.

[00:14:51] Okay.

[00:14:52] Presence, your presence.

[00:14:53] I ain't for you pardoning. I like that though.

[00:14:55] Yeah, I like that. I like that.

[00:14:56] Have you been feeling value lately? LA?

[00:14:59] Me?

[00:15:02] Uh, yeah. Yeah. I'm not even gonna say no.

[00:15:05] What made you think? What made you think about us?

[00:15:06] You know what, what, what called to my thinking?

[00:15:11] I stopped focusing where it lacks.

[00:15:14] Mm.

[00:15:14] And if I pay attention to more of the places that it does, then it overrides it.

[00:15:20] So like, I don't let one bad situation or probably somewhere where I want to feel the most valued override, you know, all the other.

[00:15:30] I think that discredits, you know, the places where I am valued.

[00:15:35] That's a fact.

[00:15:36] So for example, well, you know, you know, Don knows a lot, but in the same time, I felt like I was valued enough by y'all is like, yo, LA need in space.

[00:15:46] Y'all just knew I didn't want to talk.

[00:15:48] Nigga literally said, yo, I got nothing to say right now.

[00:15:51] I said, brother, you got it, my nigga.

[00:15:52] It's funny because somebody wanted to speak to you and they were like, I can't get through to LA.

[00:15:58] And I'm just like, not right now, bro.

[00:16:02] Yeah.

[00:16:02] I gave you some time before I was like, yo, let's talk.

[00:16:05] But I like, I know you, I know your habits.

[00:16:09] So when they stop or when it slows down, I'm like, there's probably something going on here.

[00:16:13] Nigga, I don't get a good morning from a nigga.

[00:16:14] Like, don't take it.

[00:16:16] Like somebody else would probably take it personal.

[00:16:17] No, don't take it personal.

[00:16:19] And that's, and that's, that's where the value I consider the value is.

[00:16:23] Like, you don't have to overly explain.

[00:16:25] Like y'all know me well enough to know that it's not personal.

[00:16:28] So yeah.

[00:16:29] So now I do, I do feel valued.

[00:16:31] Um, I do want to ask y'all, do y'all think we, uh, are there any places that we can value each other better?

[00:16:41] Absolutely.

[00:16:41] I think, I think we're, we're never going to be at the peak of knowing each other and understanding each other.

[00:16:49] Like that doesn't end because we've been friends for seven, eight years, like nine years.

[00:16:53] It doesn't, that never ends.

[00:16:54] So like there will be times, like Skrill says, your value, my value will rise.

[00:16:59] Your value will rise.

[00:16:59] And us as friends have to understand that or figure, like understand that that's happening.

[00:17:04] And then understand how we can then pour into each other so that you can feel that value.

[00:17:08] We have to communicate that though.

[00:17:10] Yeah.

[00:17:10] Yeah.

[00:17:11] That's another thing.

[00:17:11] I feel like we getting out in our heads so much so it's like, yo, we overthink everything.

[00:17:15] It's like, nah, I don't feel like niggas really fuck with me like that.

[00:17:17] It's like, no bro.

[00:17:18] You just, you have to communicate.

[00:17:19] Wait.

[00:17:20] No, no, no.

[00:17:20] That's a period.

[00:17:21] I feel like we get in our heads.

[00:17:22] Like, I feel like we all have our moments when we do that.

[00:17:24] We get in our own heads.

[00:17:25] Like, nah, I don't know.

[00:17:26] Like we'll start our own beef.

[00:17:27] We talked about that.

[00:17:28] We'll start our own beef with somebody because it's like, nah, bro.

[00:17:30] That's a fact.

[00:17:31] I'm guilty of that.

[00:17:32] Me too.

[00:17:33] I know you.

[00:17:34] You do that shit, my nigga.

[00:17:35] I'm bad guilty of that.

[00:17:36] I was like, yo, bro.

[00:17:37] Nah, what did I do to LA?

[00:17:38] I was like, nah, this nigga don't fuck with me no more.

[00:17:39] I was like, nah.

[00:17:40] That's why I texted you.

[00:17:41] I was like, you good?

[00:17:41] Then he said, I was going to talk.

[00:17:42] That's like, cool.

[00:17:43] That's that Michael Jordan mentality.

[00:17:44] Nah.

[00:17:45] I really felt the way about that.

[00:17:47] Nah, it's not even a Michael Jordan thing.

[00:17:48] It's just like, it's just toxic.

[00:17:51] I don't even got nothing to equate that to.

[00:17:53] It's just toxic.

[00:17:54] Like, I start real smoke in my brain.

[00:17:55] Yeah, it's like real smoke.

[00:17:59] It's like, damn, do I got to up it on Joe when I say that?

[00:18:02] I ain't gonna lie.

[00:18:02] When I say I had smoke in LA, I say, I ain't gonna lie.

[00:18:05] I don't know what I did to this nigga, but if I see him outside of Poplar, this nigga

[00:18:07] man, I'm tight.

[00:18:10] Nah, I've been like that.

[00:18:11] I've been like that.

[00:18:12] Yeah, we just got to get our own heads, bro.

[00:18:14] Yeah, Joe.

[00:18:15] We talked about that before.

[00:18:16] We won't get into that.

[00:18:17] But there was a moment where you was like, damn.

[00:18:20] You remember you was in that room?

[00:18:21] It was like, damn, I got to leave.

[00:18:22] Because I don't feel like...

[00:18:24] You know?

[00:18:29] Yeah.

[00:18:30] I feel like we've all been there.

[00:18:31] And how things have changed, bro.

[00:18:32] Yeah.

[00:18:33] Wow, wow, wow.

[00:18:33] You got to silence the noise.

[00:18:34] Even that time, do you feel like, okay, let's say that situation was real, right?

[00:18:40] When you were in your head.

[00:18:42] Do you think the value comes from at times what you can do for people?

[00:18:47] Yeah.

[00:18:48] Yeah, that's what it was for me.

[00:18:49] The thing is, the whole time, it was what I was doing for myself.

[00:18:52] Like, that was the value.

[00:18:53] Yeah.

[00:18:53] And the thing is, I didn't hear it loudly enough for me to believe it.

[00:18:57] Mm-hmm.

[00:18:58] But then, I guess throughout the proceedings, it became apparent that, oh no, it's you.

[00:19:04] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:04] And then I took the ease in, but yeah, you're right.

[00:19:08] Yeah, sometimes I...

[00:19:10] Damn, things have changed.

[00:19:11] It's tough.

[00:19:12] It's not even tough.

[00:19:14] But when you have talented friends, like everybody in this room, I kind of try to not lean into

[00:19:21] our talents and just focus on our friendships.

[00:19:25] Mm-hmm.

[00:19:25] Because yeah, Kojo does the graphics.

[00:19:28] Don does the video editing.

[00:19:29] Skrillz does this.

[00:19:31] Preach does that.

[00:19:32] Kwani does that, but...

[00:19:33] What Preach do?

[00:19:34] Well, Preach don't do nothing.

[00:19:36] What niggas a preach-

[00:19:37] Why niggas a nigga that you think and pop his ass on?

[00:19:39] Why niggas don't do nothing?

[00:19:40] You be sitting on your thumbs or something?

[00:19:42] I don't know what niggas a Preach is.

[00:19:43] Nah, but you know, I like to maintain...

[00:19:47] Like, I think all of my friends are talented.

[00:19:49] And when you have a talented friend group, I don't really...

[00:19:55] What I want from my friends is just the friendship.

[00:19:58] Like, I try not...

[00:19:59] Like, if Kojo don't ever want to do What's A Good Guy graphics again, that doesn't change

[00:20:03] him from sitting there or, you know, any of this.

[00:20:07] Like, if WAG ends, I would still like for us to link up, you know, consistently.

[00:20:12] Ironically, I told Rain that driving home yesterday.

[00:20:14] I said, yo, bro, if you ever want to stop rapping, bro, don't ever think that I won't

[00:20:18] still be your brother.

[00:20:19] Like, I know how locked in we are now because we made the decision.

[00:20:22] I said, yo, bro, we've been friends since niggas didn't have facial hair, bro.

[00:20:26] Like, I know my shit a little patchy.

[00:20:28] Now I'm gonna ask Skrillz.

[00:20:30] Skrillz always has an opinion about stuff like this.

[00:20:32] So, as LA was saying, like, yo, we're all talented in our own ways.

[00:20:36] If I don't want to do what I'm great at anymore, am I still an asset to you?

[00:20:39] Are you still an asset?

[00:20:41] Oh, am I still an asset?

[00:20:43] Like, say LA doesn't want to do podcasting no more.

[00:20:45] Yeah.

[00:20:46] Is he still an asset?

[00:20:47] Yeah, that's my nigga, man.

[00:20:48] Okay.

[00:20:48] I know how strict you are with like people that...

[00:20:51] Nah, nah.

[00:20:52] That's what I'm asking for you.

[00:20:54] Nah, I've been warming up.

[00:20:55] Like, me and LA had a real good time.

[00:20:57] You told me about it.

[00:20:58] You told me about it.

[00:20:59] You told me about it.

[00:20:59] I was warming up lately.

[00:21:02] And I've been kind of like taking steps in my personal life to be like, where I am personally

[00:21:07] outside of like just business.

[00:21:08] He been at LA.

[00:21:09] It's okay.

[00:21:09] I'm used to it.

[00:21:10] It's a Virgo, Shane.

[00:21:11] It's a Virgo on your side.

[00:21:12] Yeah, you know a couple of Virgos, huh?

[00:21:14] That was a good one.

[00:21:16] That was a good one.

[00:21:17] Maybe we should sit down and eat shrimp and grits.

[00:21:21] Nigga, you keep playing that game with me, right?

[00:21:23] I'm in front.

[00:21:23] Only person who's gonna win that game is LA.

[00:21:25] I'm in front.

[00:21:26] I'm in front.

[00:21:27] I'm in front.

[00:21:27] Damn.

[00:21:28] It's lit out there.

[00:21:29] Yeah, it should.

[00:21:30] You try to clean up your mess.

[00:21:34] Go ahead, go ahead.

[00:21:35] But now, like, I've been working on just like feeding into like my personal life.

[00:21:39] Mm-hmm.

[00:21:40] It's my own hobbies and everything outside of the business since like now business is

[00:21:44] kind of a little easier.

[00:21:46] It's great.

[00:21:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:21:48] And I'm like pivoting a few in a few areas in my business.

[00:21:52] So now it's just like, I don't have to like run like a tight shift where I'm like, everybody

[00:21:57] has to do something.

[00:21:59] And I can just like have friends that have friends.

[00:22:01] Mm-hmm.

[00:22:01] So it's cool.

[00:22:02] Okay.

[00:22:03] Yeah.

[00:22:03] Yeah.

[00:22:04] That was one of my biggest concerns with Skrills.

[00:22:07] Cause it was like when Skrills get caught up in the business of Skrills, his real name

[00:22:15] takes a pill back.

[00:22:17] And I think that's an unfortunate turn of events because I enjoy Skrills first name more

[00:22:25] than Skrills, you know?

[00:22:27] So that's one of the things when he came to pod last time, I'm like, yo, bro, you losing

[00:22:32] yourself.

[00:22:33] Cause this is not the person that I know.

[00:22:36] Now, granted he could have grown, but I don't think everybody's growth is a good one in a

[00:22:43] sense.

[00:22:44] Like you could grow to be meaner or asshole.

[00:22:48] Growth is not always positive.

[00:22:50] Yeah.

[00:22:50] Yeah.

[00:22:51] So it was like, yo, bro, like whatever you going through, beat that shit because that

[00:22:55] shit whipping your ass.

[00:22:56] Like that shit taking over your real life.

[00:22:59] And we had a nice talk last week.

[00:23:02] Oh yeah.

[00:23:02] I was chatting while I was sick, bro.

[00:23:04] I was fuck yo, Joe.

[00:23:06] I was fucked.

[00:23:06] All you got is time and thoughts when you're sick sometimes.

[00:23:09] I ain't gonna lie.

[00:23:10] Fuck.

[00:23:10] I was curled up on the fetal position talking to Joe.

[00:23:15] I didn't need to know that detail, bro.

[00:23:16] In a hotel bathroom floor.

[00:23:18] Joe like, yo, you good.

[00:23:22] Hey man, I'm here for you though, bro.

[00:23:23] I'm here for you.

[00:23:24] In what spaces do y'all think y'all could be valued more?

[00:23:29] Oh shit, man.

[00:23:30] Hard hitting questions.

[00:23:32] I promise you this is not even ready now.

[00:23:35] Um, valued more.

[00:23:38] So who'd you say?

[00:23:40] Don told me something the other day.

[00:23:42] What the hell I told you?

[00:23:43] What'd he say?

[00:23:46] Damn, should I share this?

[00:23:47] Cause I didn't like that.

[00:23:47] Yeah, bro.

[00:23:48] Don was like, yo, you got like a healing energy.

[00:23:52] Oh yeah.

[00:23:52] It's true.

[00:23:53] Told you, yeah.

[00:23:55] Your response was fucking hilarious, but it's like-

[00:23:57] I can't find a good therapist at the moment.

[00:23:58] So I call LaShawn, cause at least he'll listen to me, man.

[00:24:01] Um, he was like, yo, I don't, you just gotta accept that in a sense.

[00:24:06] And I'm like, nah, I think I need to get baptized and watch that shit off of me.

[00:24:11] That's what I'm telling you.

[00:24:12] It's like, yo, that's not something you could wash or that's not something you could like,

[00:24:14] just put on the back burner.

[00:24:16] Cause it's a, it's a blessing from God at the same time.

[00:24:17] Yeah, but-

[00:24:18] Like it's a blessing and a curse.

[00:24:19] I don't think that's-

[00:24:20] How is it a curse?

[00:24:21] I don't think it's valued.

[00:24:22] Your healing energy isn't valued, bro?

[00:24:24] No, no, no, not by the right.

[00:24:25] Not by the people.

[00:24:26] Yeah, he's not talking about us.

[00:24:27] He's not talking about us.

[00:24:28] He's not talking about us.

[00:24:29] He's not talking about us.

[00:24:30] He's not talking about us.

[00:24:31] He's not talking about us.

[00:24:31] Like I look forward to be like, yo, I know I can go talk to my bro and he will like-

[00:24:36] But it is a curse because it's like you, you attract broken people.

[00:24:40] You know, so that is a curse.

[00:24:44] What the girls be doing?

[00:24:47] That must be new.

[00:24:48] Huh?

[00:24:48] That must be new.

[00:24:49] What, this it?

[00:24:50] You didn't be doing that.

[00:24:51] I was watching this now.

[00:24:54] Wow.

[00:24:54] Yeah.

[00:24:55] So I think, I think for me in a romantic aspect, I would like to be valued,

[00:25:03] not initially, but like without having to go through like the turmoil or the-

[00:25:10] The hoops and all of that shit.

[00:25:12] Yeah, preach rolling his eyes.

[00:25:14] You got something to say, Matt?

[00:25:16] Actually, so.

[00:25:17] I got it.

[00:25:19] But yeah, I don't, I wish you didn't have to come through the, you know.

[00:25:24] What's your experience like that with that right now?

[00:25:28] Oh, that's too-

[00:25:28] You want the nigga to-

[00:25:29] I ain't want the nigga to pop like that.

[00:25:31] That's too direct?

[00:25:31] Nah.

[00:25:33] Um, all right.

[00:25:33] I would just-

[00:25:33] Let me know.

[00:25:35] Let me see.

[00:25:38] How can I say this?

[00:25:40] Say that one more time.

[00:25:41] Well, I just wanted to know.

[00:25:43] You said it come, you don't want it to come with all of the hoopla and shit like that,

[00:25:46] but I just wanted to know if what's your experience with that right now as it stands

[00:25:51] in a, I guess in a relationship sense?

[00:25:53] Um.

[00:25:55] In the, like, do you see yourself being valued the wrong way?

[00:26:03] Disposable.

[00:26:04] Shit.

[00:26:05] So now you don't start with, you don't start with 50% now, you started with 10.

[00:26:07] It's not bad.

[00:26:08] I've been telling y'all that-

[00:26:10] The episode that comes after this, I got lapel mics.

[00:26:13] We micing everybody.

[00:26:15] Everybody talking.

[00:26:16] Everybody talking.

[00:26:17] Everybody talking on this.

[00:26:18] Every man in the room.

[00:26:18] Every man has to learn about-

[00:26:20] Me and Dane is like, I don't want to talk about it.

[00:26:21] Matter of fact, matter of fact.

[00:26:23] Oh, Dane on 10 too?

[00:26:25] Oh yeah, everybody's wild today.

[00:26:26] It got so crazy, I'm back in therapy.

[00:26:29] Dane.

[00:26:30] Yeah, so-

[00:26:31] Well, you know what?

[00:26:32] We saying Dane, but it's like, that's a good thing.

[00:26:33] It's like, nah, just a thing.

[00:26:34] I was like, yo, I'm going to holler at you after this therapy session.

[00:26:36] I was like, is he back?

[00:26:38] Nah, nah, nah.

[00:26:39] You know what it is?

[00:26:40] For me, therapy is not one of those shit gotta hit the fan for me.

[00:26:44] It's just a-

[00:26:45] Not for what's called.

[00:26:46] So that whole situation made you question your value?

[00:26:49] Oh, for sure.

[00:26:51] For sure.

[00:26:52] And I was like, this is happening too consistently.

[00:26:55] Awesome.

[00:26:58] So, yeah.

[00:27:00] We could get real here, but I don't want to.

[00:27:02] Nah, we can get real.

[00:27:03] Yo, it's me.

[00:27:04] But that goes-

[00:27:05] I like that.

[00:27:06] I like key fondant.

[00:27:06] It's me.

[00:27:07] You saying it happens too consistently.

[00:27:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:27:10] Questioning your value, knowing that other people do see your value, they just don't.

[00:27:14] They're just not appreciating it the way they should, bro.

[00:27:17] Yeah.

[00:27:17] You know what it is?

[00:27:17] And that's what I have to learn.

[00:27:19] Like, the value don't change based off of the appreciation of the person.

[00:27:21] There was like this video.

[00:27:24] It's not a video.

[00:27:25] Well, yeah.

[00:27:26] It was an AI video of like a story of a guy who had a vintage watch.

[00:27:32] Mm-hmm.

[00:27:32] And it was like beat the fuck up.

[00:27:34] Mm-hmm.

[00:27:35] And he took it to, like, he wanted to give it to somebody.

[00:27:39] He was like, I don't want that shit.

[00:27:40] That shit look fucked up.

[00:27:41] Mm-hmm.

[00:27:41] And then he took it to like a pawn shop.

[00:27:45] Pawn shop didn't really see no value of it.

[00:27:48] And I guess he wanted to like get rid of it.

[00:27:51] And a vintage watch collector saw the watch and he was like, yo, where did you get that

[00:27:57] from?

[00:27:58] And he explained, you know, how his great great granddad had it.

[00:28:03] And it was one of these like, let's say hypothetically, it was Rolex second watch.

[00:28:08] Ever made.

[00:28:09] Ever made.

[00:28:09] That's tough.

[00:28:10] And he was like, yo, I got, I got.

[00:28:15] Billion dollars.

[00:28:15] Like 5.5 for you, for that watch.

[00:28:18] And the moral of the story is the value isn't with, you know, the, uh, the no's.

[00:28:26] It's the ones who really see what it's worth.

[00:28:28] Yeah.

[00:28:28] And it was funny cause it was one of them TikTok AI videos that, but I still.

[00:28:33] Oh, it wasn't real?

[00:28:34] I don't know if it was translated into a TikTok video.

[00:28:37] I know what video you're talking about, so.

[00:28:39] Yeah.

[00:28:39] So what, it was a watch thing.

[00:28:41] Yeah.

[00:28:43] So, so that's kinda, it kinda was like that.

[00:28:45] Like I don't let my value be based on how somebody treat me.

[00:28:50] I just move away from the ones who don't treat me with the value that.

[00:28:54] But yeah, no, we could pod.

[00:28:55] We could pod.

[00:28:56] I'm good.

[00:28:57] No, I'm not.

[00:28:57] Just, I really wanted to know.

[00:28:58] I just wanted to know where you wanted to take that.

[00:29:00] But, you know, nonetheless, I think.

[00:29:03] You, uh, on that, on that front of it.

[00:29:07] Mm-hmm.

[00:29:09] That, that can get tricky because.

[00:29:12] Especially in a, in a relationship, relationship sense.

[00:29:15] You might feel valued more than you don't.

[00:29:17] Most times, more times than not.

[00:29:19] Mm-hmm.

[00:29:19] I think the power is not making those downtimes feel like they everything.

[00:29:23] Mm-hmm.

[00:29:23] You know?

[00:29:24] Because then you'll start to act like, oh, that's everything.

[00:29:26] I always say, I always say like, think about the, the goods over the bads.

[00:29:30] Mm-hmm.

[00:29:31] And, and that, let that be the umbrella for, you know.

[00:29:33] Like such an optimistic thinker.

[00:29:35] I am.

[00:29:35] I, I, every, every episode we talk.

[00:29:37] Yeah, I'm rolling into that.

[00:29:38] Yeah.

[00:29:38] Every episode we talk about optimism.

[00:29:39] Y'all know what side I lean on, bro.

[00:29:40] I'm with that more than anything.

[00:29:42] Yeah.

[00:29:42] But that's not only for, oh, Kojo's professional life or whatever.

[00:29:44] That's like with everything.

[00:29:45] Like I really do think of the best.

[00:29:48] I, that's why sometimes I don't like hearing negativity from people or negative mindsets.

[00:29:52] Like I had to tell my, my friend the other day, like, yo, you're only allowed to text me one negative thing all week.

[00:29:58] Because every day can't be.

[00:29:59] I mean, every day can't be bad.

[00:30:00] Because.

[00:30:01] Because.

[00:30:01] But if I got three days after a week, that's not the best, brother.

[00:30:03] No, I'm saying like.

[00:30:03] It was like every negative thing that they were telling me, I had the solution for them immediately.

[00:30:08] Mm.

[00:30:09] They could have had the same solution if they would have just relaxed and been optimistic about it.

[00:30:13] But you gotta remember, some people just don't want to hear that.

[00:30:14] And I, and I think.

[00:30:15] They want to, they want to, they want to.

[00:30:16] That's what I'm saying.

[00:30:17] I think my advice to them was more helpful than anything because now it's like, instead of coming to Joe with the problem.

[00:30:24] I'm gonna figure it out instead of panicking.

[00:30:26] Or I'm gonna figure it out instead of saying I need help.

[00:30:29] Mm-hmm.

[00:30:30] Yeah.

[00:30:31] That's.

[00:30:31] But now.

[00:30:32] What if.

[00:30:32] Oh wait, sorry, Chris.

[00:30:33] What if that's your value to them?

[00:30:35] You're the solution.

[00:30:37] Yo.

[00:30:37] Yo.

[00:30:38] We had an episode about this called punching bag.

[00:30:40] Bro, that makes you feel like a punching bag sometimes.

[00:30:41] Like, yo, stop dumping the shit on me.

[00:30:43] Okay.

[00:30:44] That's fair.

[00:30:44] That's fair.

[00:30:46] What if you give them the solution and they really don't take no heed to it?

[00:30:49] They don't.

[00:30:49] That's the thing.

[00:30:50] Where they?

[00:30:50] They do.

[00:30:51] It's immediate like, yo, you are the person for this.

[00:30:55] Or you, you understand me.

[00:30:57] You give great advice.

[00:30:58] I want to listen to you.

[00:30:59] How should I handle this?

[00:31:00] But it's like, damn, yo, you all you have to do is take a couple minutes to think.

[00:31:04] You got it.

[00:31:04] So what if, where's your optimism or, or in them seeing you as them?

[00:31:10] No, that's, no, it's there.

[00:31:11] But I also don't want to do the work for them all the time.

[00:31:13] That's all it is.

[00:31:14] That's a boundary that I would've, it was tough and it was playful.

[00:31:19] Like, of course they can, they can hit me whenever.

[00:31:22] Yeah.

[00:31:22] But I want them to get used to understanding that, yo, I could do this too.

[00:31:25] Yeah.

[00:31:26] You don't always need Joda.

[00:31:27] Yeah.

[00:31:28] Yeah.

[00:31:29] No, I feel that.

[00:31:30] That's, that's good.

[00:31:31] I'm getting better at setting boundaries.

[00:31:33] What was your thoughts, squirrels?

[00:31:34] Because your face is just, why it's so stink, my nigga?

[00:31:37] I'm on bad.

[00:31:38] I forgot my face.

[00:31:39] I'm on bad.

[00:31:44] So my main thing is right.

[00:31:45] Everybody's coming to you to kind of like solve their problems that you think are like

[00:31:49] common sense.

[00:31:50] Yeah.

[00:31:51] No.

[00:31:51] Why do you keep allowing them to reach out to you about that?

[00:31:55] Well, he told them, yo, it's only one a week now.

[00:31:58] So one a week is crazy.

[00:32:00] You gave them like an allowance.

[00:32:03] One a week is not, it's not, it's not like a serious.

[00:32:06] Oh, one a day or whatever.

[00:32:08] It could be one a day.

[00:32:09] If you have seven, seven problems a week.

[00:32:13] Cause I'm like, I'm not gonna front.

[00:32:14] I hate talking to people like that have problems like that all the time.

[00:32:18] Yeah, you know.

[00:32:18] It's like a little, it's like a little like dragging.

[00:32:20] Yeah, but what, what if nobody has ever been in their life to hold them accountable to

[00:32:25] understand that, yo, there are different ways to handle your, your, your situations.

[00:32:31] You know what I'm saying?

[00:32:32] Then it kind of feels like they're dragging me down.

[00:32:34] Yeah, but somebody, well, it don't have to be my job or your job, but somebody in their

[00:32:39] life should be able to understand that and give them the tools that need.

[00:32:44] When are they going to be that person for themselves?

[00:32:45] This person is still, I wouldn't, they're younger than me.

[00:32:48] Like how old is younger than you?

[00:32:49] About four, three years.

[00:32:51] Oh, I'm 32.

[00:32:52] I'm a bunny.

[00:32:53] So the frontal lobe has developed.

[00:32:56] They can get scientific.

[00:32:57] Yeah, maybe.

[00:32:58] After 26, I'm like, have a little logic here, baby.

[00:33:03] Yeah, I feel you.

[00:33:04] Yeah.

[00:33:04] But some people are just more emotion based with all their decisions, you know?

[00:33:10] And it's sometimes, I'm telling you, minus, minuscule things that they just overlook because

[00:33:15] they think the world's about to crash.

[00:33:17] Yeah.

[00:33:17] And it's like, no.

[00:33:18] You're kind of like that panic button.

[00:33:20] Yes.

[00:33:21] Yeah.

[00:33:21] But I'm like, you know, I guess, how did you learn to like, not panic so much?

[00:33:29] When my parents put me in therapy in sixth grade, I think it's been a long journey for

[00:33:33] me to get to this point where I'm a bit more patient than others when it comes to certain

[00:33:36] things.

[00:33:36] And my patients have been able to carry me into my friendships where I'd be like, yo,

[00:33:40] I see that I can be utilized this way.

[00:33:43] Yeah.

[00:33:44] There's value in that.

[00:33:45] We talking about value.

[00:33:46] I think the value that somebody sees in me is that, yo, I may not handle this situation

[00:33:51] the best.

[00:33:52] One of my good friends is really good at stuff like this.

[00:33:55] Let me see what he thinks.

[00:33:56] Let me see what he would do.

[00:33:57] And I'm okay with that.

[00:33:59] Now, how do you feel?

[00:34:00] How do y'all feel about just in some situations you look to, you look as a tool.

[00:34:06] So you looked at just as, just as an asset.

[00:34:09] You just looked at just as a graphic designer.

[00:34:11] Nothing else.

[00:34:11] That's it.

[00:34:12] Is the money in it?

[00:34:13] Yeah.

[00:34:14] It's a transaction.

[00:34:15] The money's in it if they fucking pay me, dog.

[00:34:17] I'm all in, screw.

[00:34:17] Damn.

[00:34:17] So you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you

[00:34:19] just, you just hold for higher.

[00:34:20] What are you telling me?

[00:34:21] That's it.

[00:34:21] Certain things are just transactional.

[00:34:23] How much you charging?

[00:34:25] We ain't doing per hour, my nigga.

[00:34:26] I ain't gonna lie.

[00:34:27] Certain things are transactional, you know?

[00:34:29] Certain things are transactional, you know?

[00:34:29] Now, screw's right.

[00:34:30] Like, if that's how you see me, if that's your, if that's my value to you.

[00:34:35] You're my therapist and that's it.

[00:34:36] I just want to tell you this and that's it.

[00:34:37] I mean, out there, out there, I can't feel that way.

[00:34:40] No, but you're not, bro.

[00:34:41] My pain is my man.

[00:34:42] I know some of us group, uh, relationships with out there, it's outside of the office,

[00:34:45] right?

[00:34:45] Like, because that's how people demand it got.

[00:34:48] But, like, I remember, I remember, I used to hit a man on the, uh, man on the,

[00:34:52] Bro, what's up, what's up with you?

[00:34:54] Bro, you good?

[00:34:56] I'ma do that over.

[00:34:57] I'ma do that over.

[00:34:58] I'ma do that over.

[00:34:59] I'ma do that over.

[00:35:02] I ain't gonna lie, you a wild nigga for that though.

[00:35:04] Go ahead, bro.

[00:35:05] You single man eating chips like this is a fucking new life.

[00:35:08] Yo, I was wild.

[00:35:09] That's cool, that's cool, bro.

[00:35:10] I remember I used to hit Amanda on the side, bro.

[00:35:13] That was a wild, you a wild.

[00:35:14] Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

[00:35:15] That's a piece of the God, but look, I remember I used to, like, hit her on the side,

[00:35:19] just having regular conversations.

[00:35:20] I just wanted her to know that her value to me wasn't solely in those hour sessions that we had, bro.

[00:35:25] You know what I'm saying?

[00:35:26] Yup.

[00:35:27] However, there are people who only have the value in their therapist and that's their job.

[00:35:33] Or the value of what they do.

[00:35:35] Yeah, and what they do.

[00:35:35] Yeah, and that's it.

[00:35:36] And that gotta be okay.

[00:35:37] But I feel like now if you have, like, a personal issue with your therapist, you know,

[00:35:42] you're talking about other things, now they're a little biased.

[00:35:46] Their job is to not be biased.

[00:35:48] I know, but I was like...

[00:35:49] At some point, there is some bias in it.

[00:35:51] Yeah, because now it's just like, now they're like, oh nah, Joe can't handle that.

[00:35:56] You know what I mean?

[00:35:57] We gonna have a good lunch date today.

[00:35:59] Let me not...

[00:36:00] Well, no, so that breaks...

[00:36:03] Yeah, you can't.

[00:36:05] You can't.

[00:36:05] Client privilege.

[00:36:06] Yeah.

[00:36:07] Private client privilege.

[00:36:09] So it's not that we will like, have lunch with her.

[00:36:13] Like, I remember one time we ran into each other at...

[00:36:17] What's that candle spot that she put me onto?

[00:36:20] Bath and Body Works?

[00:36:21] Yeah, that's the one.

[00:36:22] Yeah.

[00:36:24] And she fronting like she ain't know me.

[00:36:26] And then when I saw her the next day, I'm like, yo, what was good with you?

[00:36:30] She was like, yo, I can't.

[00:36:32] Like, I care for you, LeSean, but we can't.

[00:36:34] And I was like, oh, all right, all right.

[00:36:36] Don't do that though.

[00:36:37] You give me your head now, man.

[00:36:39] You're right at your doorstep.

[00:36:40] But then, you know, there's days where she would hit me on non-meeting days.

[00:36:46] Like, yo, have a good day.

[00:36:47] Yeah.

[00:36:47] On purpose.

[00:36:48] Yeah.

[00:36:49] Have a good day on purpose.

[00:36:52] And so...

[00:36:52] Let me ask y'all a question.

[00:36:53] What makes you put somebody on a high pedestal?

[00:36:56] I got to stop doing that, bro.

[00:36:58] That shit be wet.

[00:37:02] I said the same thing.

[00:37:05] You said that shit be wet.

[00:37:06] That's exactly what he said.

[00:37:08] Oh my God.

[00:37:09] What makes you put somebody on a high pedestal, bro?

[00:37:11] That's a different type of ocean, bro.

[00:37:13] Wait, now, you answer it.

[00:37:14] You answer it first.

[00:37:16] What makes you put somebody on a high pedestal?

[00:37:17] Cause I have my...

[00:37:19] Mmm.

[00:37:21] I don't want to make it sound transactional.

[00:37:22] This nigga's still going.

[00:37:23] I don't want to make it sound transactional, but it's the...

[00:37:27] Mmm.

[00:37:28] The things you could do for me, things I could do for you, and the way you make me feel.

[00:37:30] Yeah, facts.

[00:37:32] Facts.

[00:37:32] It goes back to the pussy, by the way.

[00:37:35] That's what I'm saying.

[00:37:37] Okay.

[00:37:37] What about your early experiences with the individual?

[00:37:42] Facts to me.

[00:37:43] Right?

[00:37:43] Mmm-hmm.

[00:37:44] I've been hitting first day.

[00:37:46] No.

[00:37:47] Wait.

[00:37:48] Okay, so we're talking about women.

[00:37:50] We ain't talking about that.

[00:37:51] They just wrong.

[00:37:52] Okay.

[00:37:53] So...

[00:37:54] Let me skip back.

[00:37:54] I'm talking about early experiences.

[00:37:56] So like, you just meet this person.

[00:37:57] Mmm-hmm.

[00:37:58] You love the energy that is there, no matter how y'all met.

[00:38:01] Whether it's through a friend, random, whatever.

[00:38:04] And maybe like, that first month of experiences with them.

[00:38:06] On the high.

[00:38:07] You...

[00:38:08] On the high.

[00:38:08] You might as well be like, nah, I'll fuck with them.

[00:38:10] And you start introducing them to your friends.

[00:38:12] Like, yo, this is my...

[00:38:13] This is my...

[00:38:14] They on a pedestal.

[00:38:15] Once...

[00:38:15] Once somebody starts being introduced to your circle, the pedestal is just higher and higher

[00:38:21] and higher.

[00:38:21] Sorry, LA.

[00:38:22] You know what I'm saying?

[00:38:24] So...

[00:38:24] You know what I mean?

[00:38:25] That's...

[00:38:25] I think that early experience with a person is why I would put somebody on a high pedestal

[00:38:31] or not.

[00:38:31] Because I think...

[00:38:32] Of course, people change throughout the process.

[00:38:35] Mm-hmm.

[00:38:35] Which is unfortunate.

[00:38:38] But...

[00:38:38] I think we get super giddy, bro.

[00:38:40] Like, well, nah, this is it.

[00:38:41] It's natural human shit.

[00:38:42] Yo, I'm telling you, there's an episode that we'll do...

[00:38:45] Probably...

[00:38:45] Yeah, we'll probably do it after this one.

[00:38:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:38:47] Um, that literally breaks all of that down and how to stop it from happening.

[00:38:53] Why?

[00:38:53] What I wanna stop...

[00:38:54] No, cuz...

[00:38:56] Why you gonna stop my phone?

[00:38:57] Like, what we doing?

[00:38:58] But that is...

[00:39:00] For me, I had to learn it to make sure one, I wasn't doing it.

[00:39:04] Mm-hmm.

[00:39:05] And two, I know how to prevent it next time.

[00:39:08] Mm-hmm.

[00:39:08] Because...

[00:39:09] I feel like there's a cycle in that giddiness...

[00:39:12] Mm-hmm.

[00:39:12] That makes you...

[00:39:14] Stop thinking logical.

[00:39:15] Bro, I feel like you...

[00:39:17] I feel like...

[00:39:18] I feel like...

[00:39:18] Love isn't logical, though.

[00:39:19] You're right.

[00:39:20] Dude, that like...

[00:39:21] Come on now, brother!

[00:39:22] You're right.

[00:39:22] Smoke you.

[00:39:23] You're right.

[00:39:24] That's a little hill.

[00:39:24] But...

[00:39:25] Aside from...

[00:39:25] Oh, no, go ahead.

[00:39:26] Nah, I was gonna say...

[00:39:27] So...

[00:39:28] I feel like you...

[00:39:29] You getting a lot of rules and regulations now.

[00:39:31] Like, you...

[00:39:32] Yeah.

[00:39:32] You protect yourself so much, you protect yourself from the fun as well, though.

[00:39:36] Yeah.

[00:39:37] Yeah.

[00:39:37] Nah, I do gotta protect myself.

[00:39:39] I be too foreign, bro.

[00:39:41] So, you know...

[00:39:42] I met somebody...

[00:39:43] Bro, I met somebody...

[00:39:44] You gon' hear that in audio.

[00:39:45] I met somebody like in the last two years that I had put on a pedestal just off of my

[00:39:49] early experiences with them and then turns out that they weren't like somebody...

[00:39:55] Worthy.

[00:39:56] They weren't worthy of the pedestal.

[00:39:57] Yeah.

[00:39:58] Nah, it is what it is.

[00:39:59] And then that...

[00:39:59] You get to that point, you start thinking like, damn, did I make this bad decision?

[00:40:02] Yeah.

[00:40:02] Then you gotta self-evaluate how they got there.

[00:40:06] Yeah.

[00:40:06] The only reason why they got there is because of you and maybe you overlooked a couple things

[00:40:10] or...

[00:40:10] No, the thing is, you might not overlook anything.

[00:40:12] You just realize that you have to experience them too.

[00:40:14] Mm.

[00:40:15] You know what's funny?

[00:40:15] I did that with a person though.

[00:40:17] When me in LA met this person.

[00:40:18] I was like, yo, nah, I fucked with someone.

[00:40:20] I started putting someone on a little pedestal and told a nigga that's in funny shit.

[00:40:22] I was like, nah, I can't fuck with niggas like that no more.

[00:40:24] Yeah, I can't wait till he die.

[00:40:28] Yo, it's gonna be like a commercial break and we gonna put the nigga...

[00:40:33] Niggas, I pulled to my off funeral.

[00:40:35] I pulled to my off funeral to see to make sure the nigga dead.

[00:40:37] I can't wait till he's dead.

[00:40:40] Look at the date just looking like this nigga's wild.

[00:40:42] But yeah, that made me not look at people a little different, not put people on a high pedestal.

[00:40:45] It's like, nah.

[00:40:46] Yeah, facts.

[00:40:47] Facts.

[00:40:47] I feel like I'm giving people too much.

[00:40:48] I feel like I'm giving you too much.

[00:40:49] You know why I stopped putting value in words?

[00:40:52] That's action.

[00:40:54] I put value in words so much, bro.

[00:40:55] It could sound good.

[00:40:56] It sounds good.

[00:40:57] You could have smooth talked to me, bro.

[00:41:00] I couldn't be a woman, bro.

[00:41:04] Shit we be saying.

[00:41:05] Niggas ain't shit right now.

[00:41:08] Nah, I feel you on that too.

[00:41:09] Nah, I stopped putting value in words, bro.

[00:41:12] I really do.

[00:41:13] You gotta show me.

[00:41:14] You gotta show me.

[00:41:15] Not putting value in words, but knowing that words mean things and all of that.

[00:41:19] Yeah, but you know why they mean things?

[00:41:21] Because there's an action behind it.

[00:41:23] You know what I'm saying?

[00:41:24] Like, you gotta follow through with that.

[00:41:26] Now how many times till you be like, nah, I'm done.

[00:41:29] Like, all of these words not matching the actions.

[00:41:32] Like, what's...

[00:41:33] Yeah, but I guess...

[00:41:34] You get like a time frame or something?

[00:41:35] I guess that's your level of discernment and the...

[00:41:38] You know what?

[00:41:41] Unfortunately, there is no amount, because if life did some bullshit to me, my level of grace

[00:41:48] may be mad low just because of my circumstances.

[00:41:51] So, hypothetically speaking, say I had met somebody new and they did...

[00:41:56] I saw a glim...

[00:41:59] Similarities between the last two situations and this one.

[00:42:02] I'm out of here.

[00:42:02] Like, I'm not even...

[00:42:03] You know, that ain't to the fault of the person.

[00:42:06] But in my circumstances, I'm not running...

[00:42:09] I'm not rolling the dice on this.

[00:42:10] Damn, that's some PTSD for your ass.

[00:42:12] Yeah, facts, but you know, it is what it is.

[00:42:14] I'm starting to think that your actions are kind of pulling these things out of these

[00:42:18] people.

[00:42:19] I mean, you're looking for these specific flaws now.

[00:42:22] Uh-uh.

[00:42:23] Kick on the mirror.

[00:42:24] I don't go looking for flaws, trust me.

[00:42:27] I ain't gonna find too much shit.

[00:42:29] You being honest?

[00:42:29] You being honest?

[00:42:31] I think I got four eyes, brother.

[00:42:33] You are, man.

[00:42:33] No, I don't be, bro.

[00:42:34] You know what they look like.

[00:42:36] I ain't the only thing open.

[00:42:37] That's why I said I ain't looking for flaws, bro.

[00:42:38] I be looking past them shits, bro.

[00:42:40] So, I don't say I look for flaws, but I just think some of them shits be screaming.

[00:42:46] What's a flaw that screams to you?

[00:42:49] Damn, I can't do that.

[00:42:51] Yeah, that's gonna break it to that.

[00:42:52] Yeah, I already know...

[00:42:53] Yeah, I can't do that.

[00:42:54] I can't.

[00:42:54] I don't bleed on the pod, but...

[00:42:57] There ain't even that.

[00:42:58] I got band-aids.

[00:43:03] One of them I could say, because I've said this plenty of times,

[00:43:09] I'm not here to fix a heart I didn't break.

[00:43:11] Dealing with a heart that I didn't break?

[00:43:13] So, if you still try to pick up the pieces on where you...

[00:43:19] Like, don't tell me or anyone that you moved on from a situation and you still picking up those pieces.

[00:43:26] You can't...

[00:43:28] I don't wanna heal with anybody.

[00:43:31] Especially if I ain't caused the damage.

[00:43:33] I've been hearing that all week.

[00:43:34] Come healed.

[00:43:35] Come healed.

[00:43:35] Come healed.

[00:43:36] I'm not an insurance policy.

[00:43:38] Shout out to Jordan.

[00:43:39] I'm not an insurance policy.

[00:43:40] Right, shout out to Jordan.

[00:43:40] But...

[00:43:41] I guess you're not a fun time.

[00:43:42] Oh, I'm a fun time, but...

[00:43:44] You're not the rebound.

[00:43:45] See, that's the thing.

[00:43:46] L.A. has to be in that mentality to be that.

[00:43:48] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:43:48] If he not there...

[00:43:49] Yeah, cuz if I'm a rebound, oh, it's lit.

[00:43:52] Ben Wallace, bro.

[00:43:53] Like, it's...

[00:43:54] That's your guy.

[00:43:55] That's it.

[00:43:55] That's it.

[00:43:56] I'm...

[00:43:57] But that's not what I'm here to do.

[00:43:58] That's not the position I'm...

[00:43:59] You're grown.

[00:43:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:44:00] So you're not here for a fun time, no?

[00:44:02] You don't be in the clubs, that's why.

[00:44:03] You said what?

[00:44:04] You don't be in the clubs.

[00:44:05] You're right.

[00:44:06] And that's why I don't be...

[00:44:08] In the club?

[00:44:09] I know my value, and I know where I should be and shouldn't be in the clubs.

[00:44:13] They might be in the clubs, bro.

[00:44:15] You're telling me the good women ain't in the club?

[00:44:17] No, they don't go up there.

[00:44:18] You know the worst ones in the church.

[00:44:20] Oh my God.

[00:44:23] Shout out to preach.

[00:44:25] That's why I preach it on Go.

[00:44:27] You know, like tonight.

[00:44:36] Oh my God.

[00:44:37] Come out with me.

[00:44:38] Beautiful, amazing woman.

[00:44:40] I ain't gonna lie, bro.

[00:44:41] Hold on, hold on.

[00:44:42] Damn, I can't even...

[00:44:43] I can't even pod, cause you're promoting.

[00:44:45] You gon' fold.

[00:44:47] Who, me?

[00:44:47] Yeah, you met your person in the club?

[00:44:50] Yeah.

[00:44:51] You did?

[00:44:51] In the club?

[00:44:52] We all fam.

[00:44:53] We all fam.

[00:44:54] We all fam.

[00:44:56] I'll tell you, my success rate be club and IG, so...

[00:45:00] Yeah, but nah, for me, I just know what my value is, as far as time too.

[00:45:08] Does a person lose value based upon the job that they have?

[00:45:12] Fuck no.

[00:45:13] Life's hard, bro.

[00:45:15] She a bottle girl.

[00:45:16] Value go down?

[00:45:17] I did that before.

[00:45:18] LA could be the bottle girl.

[00:45:20] I did that before.

[00:45:21] He's strong.

[00:45:21] Yeah, I've did that before.

[00:45:23] You did ass?

[00:45:23] Yeah.

[00:45:24] She over here bringing sparklers to your ass.

[00:45:26] I ain't gonna lie.

[00:45:26] Niggas losing people.

[00:45:28] I ain't gonna lie.

[00:45:28] Spike his drink for me, babe.

[00:45:30] Spike his...

[00:45:31] I ain't gonna lie.

[00:45:33] He said teamwork.

[00:45:34] He said teamwork.

[00:45:35] This nigga is sick.

[00:45:39] He'll drive a woman like that.

[00:45:40] I've done it before, bro.

[00:45:42] Done what?

[00:45:43] Yeah.

[00:45:44] I've dated a bottle girl before.

[00:45:45] Oh, what?

[00:45:46] Yeah.

[00:45:46] What she got now?

[00:45:47] For you?

[00:45:48] He took it 30k a night.

[00:45:51] Nah.

[00:45:51] She bringing the bank home.

[00:45:53] Nah, we got...

[00:45:54] Nah, we got...

[00:45:54] Nah, we got...

[00:45:54] Nah, we got...

[00:45:54] Nah, we got...

[00:45:56] Nah, nah.

[00:45:57] She was bringing...

[00:45:58] She did!

[00:45:59] Ah!

[00:46:02] Shit.

[00:46:02] Ah, niggas, I'm smacking my hand so hard, asshole.

[00:46:05] Oh, fucking idiot, bro.

[00:46:06] That's quantity man, thank you.

[00:46:08] Everybody quantity man for you, bro.

[00:46:10] Oh, shit.

[00:46:12] That nigga gonna turn quantity...

[00:46:13] Niggas gonna turn quantity to a goat.

[00:46:16] Shit.

[00:46:17] Niggas gonna turn quantity to stew, nigga.

[00:46:20] Nah, you said that last time it was when I was in the week, bro.

[00:46:22] Yo.

[00:46:24] Damn, you think I value...

[00:46:25] You think when people look at us like, yo, these niggas value went down.

[00:46:28] These niggas are podcasts.

[00:46:30] Yes.

[00:46:31] Whoa.

[00:46:31] Yes.

[00:46:31] Is that what he was taking at?

[00:46:32] Yes.

[00:46:33] People really do say that, bro.

[00:46:34] I can't front.

[00:46:35] The left...

[00:46:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:46:37] That's crazy.

[00:46:37] I had to preface that.

[00:46:39] Like, well, she had to preface that.

[00:46:41] Shit.

[00:46:41] Damn, I got...

[00:46:41] He not one of those is crazy.

[00:46:43] Yeah, it's like, nah, nah, you have to listen to them.

[00:46:45] You have to listen to them.

[00:46:45] It's like, damn.

[00:46:46] Yeah, they gotta fuck like this stuff.

[00:46:48] Yeah, yeah.

[00:46:48] We should make a PSA.

[00:46:49] All y'all niggas podcasting, stop fucking up the game for niggas who really do it.

[00:46:52] It's too indigable.

[00:46:52] Niggas fucked it up already.

[00:46:53] It's already tainted.

[00:46:54] It's good.

[00:46:55] Everything that we enjoy, the value of it gets destroyed because of the success rate of

[00:47:06] the biggest person.

[00:47:08] Mm-hmm.

[00:47:08] So, for example...

[00:47:09] The biggest people.

[00:47:10] Yeah, it's a lot of them uptown.

[00:47:11] Let's use Matthew as an example.

[00:47:12] Which Matthew?

[00:47:13] Matthew produced.

[00:47:14] Yeah, preach, right?

[00:47:14] Yeah.

[00:47:15] And let's say...

[00:47:16] Let's say Matthew is now the biggest producer.

[00:47:19] Should be.

[00:47:19] He should be.

[00:47:20] He should be.

[00:47:21] 100%.

[00:47:21] But that's him not appreciating his own value and working harder.

[00:47:25] Preach!

[00:47:25] Enjoy music.

[00:47:26] But let's say...

[00:47:28] All right, so preach is now the biggest producer, right?

[00:47:30] And somebody looks at preach and be like,

[00:47:34] I preach beats.

[00:47:36] Preach type beats.

[00:47:37] Preach type beats.

[00:47:38] And now, and now the value...

[00:47:42] Yeah, I get to.

[00:47:43] Yeah, I get to.

[00:47:43] And now everybody trying to do it for the buck.

[00:47:45] The quality gets destroyed.

[00:47:46] So that...

[00:47:47] Anything that we love to do will get stepped on because of the buck instead of the love.

[00:47:53] That's why we need gatekeepers.

[00:47:55] I realized that.

[00:47:55] I went to a rap show last night, bro.

[00:47:58] And I saw the difference in artists.

[00:48:00] It was a bunch of artists on the lineup.

[00:48:02] Yeah.

[00:48:02] I'm not going to say who was the best artist of the night.

[00:48:05] Do it.

[00:48:06] But...

[00:48:07] Yah-yah.

[00:48:07] Of course you can say that artist.

[00:48:09] I'm looking at lineup and I'm like, you're popping.

[00:48:13] You're popping.

[00:48:14] You're popping.

[00:48:15] But literally you can see the vast difference.

[00:48:17] Not ready yet.

[00:48:18] I'm not ready yet.

[00:48:19] Can we take it then?

[00:48:21] Can we take it then?

[00:48:21] Without saying too much.

[00:48:22] Can we take it then?

[00:48:23] Wherever you want to take it.

[00:48:24] All right.

[00:48:24] The value in the popping-ness versus the talent.

[00:48:30] Let's take it.

[00:48:30] And people feeling like, oh, you not ready because you have popped.

[00:48:32] You don't have the eyes.

[00:48:34] Which is terrible.

[00:48:35] Like if you sit in a room and watch talent.

[00:48:36] Like I think talent should always speak the loudest.

[00:48:39] Mm-hmm.

[00:48:40] If niggas is leaving the room and you're popping.

[00:48:43] Yeah.

[00:48:44] Says a lot about that.

[00:48:45] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:48:45] We shouldn't value being popping no more.

[00:48:47] Mm-hmm.

[00:48:47] Just let's look at the product.

[00:48:51] Yeah.

[00:48:51] Let's see who's eyes is glued, who's in tune, who's locked in.

[00:48:54] Like, oh shit, you keeping everybody in this room engaged.

[00:48:57] Niggas that don't know you, never heard you before.

[00:48:59] It's like, oh shit, who are you?

[00:49:01] That's important.

[00:49:01] The presence.

[00:49:02] Other than, oh, everybody know you, but nobody really want to stand here and...

[00:49:05] Squirrels, how do you break the mold of what Kojo's saying, but business is business?

[00:49:12] Really?

[00:49:13] Yeah, let's get there.

[00:49:14] How do you, how do you...

[00:49:15] Because I know you taking the popping act over the person who's more talented, right?

[00:49:19] The clout, nigga.

[00:49:20] Because we're talking about it.

[00:49:22] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:49:22] So wait, wait, wait.

[00:49:23] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:49:23] So for example, like, let's say, let's say you know a talented DJ.

[00:49:29] Yeah.

[00:49:30] But...

[00:49:31] Nigga not bringing mad people.

[00:49:31] He's not bringing nobody in, but you think he's talented, right?

[00:49:35] I mean, you may do your best of...

[00:49:37] You may do your best of probably getting him on the bill, but you're not going to make

[00:49:41] him three or four.

[00:49:42] Prom time.

[00:49:42] But he's the...

[00:49:43] You know he's the best.

[00:49:46] Versus...

[00:49:46] The nigga that's going to get you bottles, tables...

[00:49:48] Versus the one you know...

[00:49:50] Yo, they suck.

[00:49:51] We know who you know sucks.

[00:49:53] But you have the clout.

[00:49:53] Yeah.

[00:49:54] But they bring the door.

[00:49:55] How do you...

[00:49:56] How do you...

[00:49:57] The...

[00:49:58] Because you love a good vibe.

[00:50:00] All right.

[00:50:01] But you can't...

[00:50:01] Where you going with this, JT?

[00:50:03] What else?

[00:50:03] You can't curate the good vibe when your bottom line can be affected.

[00:50:08] So where do you draw the line of like...

[00:50:10] Good question.

[00:50:10] Yo, let's make the best of this versus...

[00:50:13] Nah.

[00:50:14] I need my money.

[00:50:15] So my most talented DJ book is Pat.

[00:50:18] Love Pat.

[00:50:19] Pat makes me the least amount of money.

[00:50:21] Really?

[00:50:22] Yes.

[00:50:23] Pat's popping though.

[00:50:24] Pat brings nobodies.

[00:50:25] Wow.

[00:50:26] Pat and I'ma tell Odido.

[00:50:28] Are you sure?

[00:50:29] Can I get to keep this?

[00:50:31] Go for it.

[00:50:31] All right, bet.

[00:50:32] Pat.

[00:50:32] I love Pat though.

[00:50:33] Yeah, Pat.

[00:50:34] We always say Pat's fucking amazing but it's like yo.

[00:50:36] But Pat doesn't promote that much though.

[00:50:38] I love Pat.

[00:50:41] All right, let's go.

[00:50:41] But Pat doesn't promote crazy though.

[00:50:44] I stopped sending Pat flyers six months ago.

[00:50:48] He just show up to work?

[00:50:49] Yeah.

[00:50:50] He's going to do an amazing job.

[00:50:52] Parties going to be lit as hell.

[00:50:54] But...

[00:50:54] Well, unfortunately, Pat does like six parties a night, my nigga.

[00:50:57] No, he doesn't.

[00:50:58] How much do you do?

[00:50:59] Like three?

[00:50:59] There's like three parties a night?

[00:51:00] Like two.

[00:51:01] Like maybe two.

[00:51:02] Okay.

[00:51:02] But the thing is like the core demographic that comes out for him, it's like they're not

[00:51:07] going to come to certain events I do.

[00:51:08] Okay.

[00:51:09] Okay.

[00:51:09] We've seen that change from when we did the Queens parties.

[00:51:13] They come back going to Brooklyn and do shimmies like oh they don't...

[00:51:15] Like when I do like...

[00:51:17] Like when I have him DJ, it's the most amazing sex.

[00:51:20] Like sometimes I'm sitting there like yo, this is fucking incredible.

[00:51:24] How the hell do you think about this mix?

[00:51:25] How do you think about this blend?

[00:51:27] But when it comes down to like marketing and promotion, I learned how to stop relying

[00:51:32] on him to bring people out.

[00:51:33] So that goes to my question.

[00:51:36] How do you...

[00:51:36] What do you lean on?

[00:51:38] Well, me personally, I lean on marketing.

[00:51:40] Yeah.

[00:51:41] So it's the business over the talent?

[00:51:43] Yeah.

[00:51:44] So for me, it's just like I know he's talented.

[00:51:47] I know I can have him DJ the whole night.

[00:51:49] And I know I just fill the room up myself.

[00:51:51] Yeah.

[00:51:52] So I don't really rely on him anymore.

[00:51:54] Like I just rely on like...

[00:51:55] Okay.

[00:51:55] So for like, let's use us then.

[00:51:58] Right?

[00:51:59] Yeah.

[00:52:00] We're not the most salacious.

[00:52:03] Not at all.

[00:52:04] If we go viral...

[00:52:04] We could be.

[00:52:05] We could be.

[00:52:06] Oh, trust me.

[00:52:07] If we could just start wilding every episode.

[00:52:09] We could make a movie in here every week.

[00:52:11] Yeah.

[00:52:11] But it's like, it's not authentic to us.

[00:52:13] You know what I'm saying?

[00:52:14] Yeah.

[00:52:15] Cause by the time we get to Sunday night, I'm gonna probably get one or two phone calls.

[00:52:20] Yo, take this out.

[00:52:21] And it's usually from one person only.

[00:52:25] Only one?

[00:52:26] These days.

[00:52:28] I'm out singing shit.

[00:52:31] But nah, it's not even that.

[00:52:33] It's cause it's kind of like our real lives are more important than...

[00:52:36] Than yeah.

[00:52:37] We'll be partying.

[00:52:37] And I do think that's the unwillingness of selling our souls.

[00:52:44] What you about to say, Skrill?

[00:52:44] What Skrill's about to say.

[00:52:46] So...

[00:52:47] I love Skrill's...

[00:52:48] About this pod, right?

[00:52:49] Uh oh.

[00:52:51] You get very excited.

[00:52:52] I'm listening.

[00:52:53] I feel as if the content this podcast produces is timeless.

[00:52:58] Yeah.

[00:52:59] It's evergreen.

[00:52:59] Yeah, it's evergreen.

[00:53:01] Very comfortable.

[00:53:01] We don't live in an evergreen fucking society.

[00:53:04] Yeah.

[00:53:04] People need new things constantly.

[00:53:07] People are constantly looking to be entertained.

[00:53:09] You're constantly flipping channels, looking for shows.

[00:53:12] You're constantly scrolling on Instagram, looking for a new post.

[00:53:16] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:16] You know what I mean?

[00:53:17] Like...

[00:53:18] There should be things that are relevant.

[00:53:21] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:21] There should be a shit ton of clips.

[00:53:24] You should be just shooting and seeing what happens.

[00:53:27] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:28] So that's my thing of where like...

[00:53:30] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:31] To get it bigger, we need to kind of increase the pace of production.

[00:53:35] So social clips.

[00:53:36] More social clips and more...

[00:53:37] Yeah.

[00:53:38] You say going against the grain the way we are doing it now is not necessarily going...

[00:53:42] But that goes to...

[00:53:44] So we change up the format is what you were saying.

[00:53:45] Nah, I'm not saying shit in the format.

[00:53:46] I'm like, alright.

[00:53:48] A lot of shit discussed here is timeless.

[00:53:50] It's great stuff.

[00:53:51] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:52] But it's just like knowing when to use it as well.

[00:53:55] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:55] So it's like, say we're talking about a topic, right?

[00:53:57] Mm-hmm.

[00:53:58] They didn't say...

[00:53:59] Twitter's talking about said topic, but we did this episode like three or four months

[00:54:02] ago.

[00:54:03] Okay.

[00:54:03] Have that clip ready to go.

[00:54:04] Okay, okay.

[00:54:05] You know what I'm saying?

[00:54:05] I understand what I'm saying.

[00:54:06] Like knowing how to play the trends in the market.

[00:54:08] If you're not going to be trendy, or you're not going to produce content that's like relevant

[00:54:12] like consistently, you know, play the game.

[00:54:16] Damn.

[00:54:16] So that means you have to be actually active on social media and pay attention to shit.

[00:54:19] He's the head of marketing at What's A Good Guy.

[00:54:21] Yeah.

[00:54:22] I guess.

[00:54:22] Like say like when Vibes Cartel got released, right?

[00:54:25] We should've did a Vibes...

[00:54:27] Nah, like I said, I sat here and I said, yo, I have a Vibes Cartel tribute party flyer

[00:54:32] that I've had for like two years.

[00:54:34] Let me just change the date on it real quick.

[00:54:36] Cause I was like, this is not relevant.

[00:54:37] Mm-hmm.

[00:54:38] So I was like, same way you see like a topic on Twitter or social, you say, yo, I might

[00:54:43] have the perfect social clip.

[00:54:45] Let me just tag it on here and ride the momentum.

[00:54:48] Instead of saying, hey, let's produce trendy content.

[00:54:50] Let's look at all the content we have, categorize it and just treat it like how most people treat

[00:54:55] memes.

[00:54:56] Like, yo, let's put this out.

[00:54:57] Cause now this is hot.

[00:54:58] All right.

[00:54:59] So let's put preach on the fire.

[00:55:00] How you felt about shorty talking about how baby father like that?

[00:55:02] Oh my God.

[00:55:03] Yep.

[00:55:05] Till next week.

[00:55:07] Cause holy shit.

[00:55:08] Oh my God.

[00:55:09] I didn't say turn it into shade room.

[00:55:11] Nah, but see that is for me.

[00:55:13] It's like, for me it's like, damn.

[00:55:16] Like I'm willing to do that.

[00:55:20] We'll see what next year holds.

[00:55:22] Let's just leave it.

[00:55:22] I'm not saying change the content, but go through shit, make clips.

[00:55:26] And then just be ready to post it when things go viral.

[00:55:28] You know what black people talk about on the internet.

[00:55:31] You know what it is, bro.

[00:55:33] What is it?

[00:55:33] Back shots, crab legs.

[00:55:36] Dates.

[00:55:36] $40, baby.

[00:55:37] Back shots and crab legs.

[00:55:38] That's a nice episode, David.

[00:55:40] Back shots and crab legs.

[00:55:41] You know what I mean?

[00:55:42] Like.

[00:55:43] $42 drinks at St.

[00:55:44] All that.

[00:55:45] Yo, we should have did that.

[00:55:46] We can go to St.

[00:55:47] record whatever.

[00:55:48] Let me know.

[00:55:49] Shout out to James.

[00:55:50] Shout out to James.

[00:55:57] I appreciate it for everything he's done for us.

[00:56:02] Yo, till next time man.

[00:56:04] It's Dom Peasley, man.

[00:56:05] Oh my God.

[00:56:06] You can follow me at StayFocus at Leo, Instagram and Twitter.

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[00:56:16] Yo, bro.

[00:56:17] Skrillz underscore JSM.

[00:56:19] Yo, bro.

[00:56:19] All that stuff.

[00:56:20] Yo, yo, yo, yo.

[00:56:21] Don't got game.

[00:56:22] Don't fucking wavy in it.

[00:56:24] Nigga don't got Instagram, Dane.

[00:56:26] And fucking preach gold.

[00:56:27] Yeah, bro.

[00:56:28] Till next time, man.

[00:56:29] I'm out of here, bro.

[00:56:29] God is the greatest.

[00:56:30] Nigga.