[00:00:00] Viva La Kelsey, she loves to ask us questions and I fuck with her for that.
[00:00:06] What is your limit on forgiveness, i.e. cheating, lying and rudeness?
[00:00:11] I'll start from back to front.
[00:00:14] Rudeness...
[00:00:16] Oh he nasty.
[00:00:20] Rudeness... nah I tell you...
[00:00:23] If I start from the back, I really... you are just a kill.
[00:00:27] Oh my gosh.
[00:00:29] Rudeness...
[00:00:32] I can forget rudeness though.
[00:00:34] I can forget... wait.
[00:00:35] It depends how rude you get in there.
[00:00:37] Tuck my dick and shit like that is good.
[00:00:38] That's massive, wow.
[00:00:39] It depends... it doesn't depend on the rudeness.
[00:00:42] Who are you being rude to?
[00:00:43] Are you just mad at something?
[00:00:44] Oh yeah.
[00:00:46] Yeah, cause like say we're at a restaurant...
[00:00:47] I don't forget that.
[00:00:49] I don't forget that.
[00:00:49] You can be mad at getting rude with waiters bro.
[00:00:51] I thought she had like an example or something.
[00:00:53] That's just a question?
[00:00:54] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:00:55] She said, what's your limit on forgiveness?
[00:00:58] Question mark.
[00:00:59] Examples?
[00:00:59] Cheating, lying or rudeness?
[00:01:02] That's vague but I think we could just build.
[00:01:04] Yeah.
[00:01:05] How do you feel about somebody like being rude to a waiter though?
[00:01:07] A waitress?
[00:01:08] I don't like that though.
[00:01:09] I actually...
[00:01:11] Those are one of those professions that I go out my way to overly respect.
[00:01:16] You take a lot of shit.
[00:01:17] You take a lot of...
[00:01:18] Yeah.
[00:01:19] Y'all talking about unwarranted rudeness though.
[00:01:21] It's like your bro, why?
[00:01:22] Yeah.
[00:01:22] Like literally why?
[00:01:23] Yeah, my food is late.
[00:01:23] It's like oh, you've been waiting for food for about five years.
[00:01:26] Yeah, I feel like so...
[00:01:27] It's a kitchen.
[00:01:29] It's a kitchen.
[00:01:29] The real...
[00:01:31] I think people who are rude to like hostess, waiters, anybody that's in a service thing,
[00:01:36] I feel like those people have the ability to look down on them.
[00:01:41] Mm-hmm.
[00:01:41] You know?
[00:01:42] Would you...
[00:01:43] I always wanna keep in mind, would you have the same aggression with this person if y'all
[00:01:48] were not in this setting?
[00:01:49] Mm-hmm.
[00:01:50] So if they were serving you, so would you talk to them in this manner if y'all were just walking
[00:01:54] the street?
[00:01:54] Mm-hmm.
[00:01:55] Opposed to them serving you?
[00:01:57] If not, you pussy, but at the same time like yo, I just treat everybody with respect.
[00:02:04] Especially at...
[00:02:05] They at work.
[00:02:06] They didn't sign...
[00:02:07] Well...
[00:02:07] Yeah, they did.
[00:02:08] They didn't sign up for disrespect.
[00:02:09] They didn't sign up for disrespect.
[00:02:10] Yeah, nobody does.
[00:02:12] Nobody does.
[00:02:12] Yeah, nobody does.
[00:02:13] So I just don't think that's fair.
[00:02:18] Rudeness...
[00:02:19] Rudeness can be vague too because culturally the way people talk...
[00:02:24] Yeah.
[00:02:24] It can be perceived as rude.
[00:02:26] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:27] So that...
[00:02:30] But see, she said rudeness, not disrespect.
[00:02:33] So once you say suck my dick and all of that shit, that's disrespect.
[00:02:36] Okay.
[00:02:36] Ain't no time for that.
[00:02:38] That's rude too though.
[00:02:39] Yeah, but that's...
[00:02:40] That's...
[00:02:41] That's...
[00:02:41] You know, there's borderline rude and then there's flat out disrespect.
[00:02:46] Women think they could get away with that suck my dick shit.
[00:02:48] That...
[00:02:49] No.
[00:02:50] Um...
[00:02:51] Cause they don't even like when I say that or I slap you with it on your tongue.
[00:02:54] Sure.
[00:02:54] Alright, but...
[00:02:56] Okay.
[00:02:57] But what about forgiveness in the whole...
[00:03:00] Alright, so the second...
[00:03:02] Her second is lying.
[00:03:04] That's her second example.
[00:03:05] It's honesty.
[00:03:05] Lying about...
[00:03:06] Lying about what?
[00:03:07] Yeah.
[00:03:08] See, there's so many...
[00:03:09] It's very vague.
[00:03:10] See my thing, if I catch you...
[00:03:12] If you're one of those, uh...
[00:03:13] What's the term?
[00:03:15] Right left?
[00:03:15] Habitual liars?
[00:03:16] Habitual liars?
[00:03:16] Yeah.
[00:03:17] I'm...
[00:03:17] Yeah.
[00:03:18] It's not that I won't forgive you.
[00:03:20] It's more that I won't fuck with you.
[00:03:21] I just won't fuck with you.
[00:03:22] Cause if you lying about the smallest shit, God knows what you about to lie about.
[00:03:26] Nah, I didn't...
[00:03:27] Now you act like a kid, like, oh yeah, I watch the dishes.
[00:03:29] My nigga just...
[00:03:29] What are you doing?
[00:03:30] Yeah.
[00:03:31] I can see you watch those dishes.
[00:03:32] Like you lying about the dumbest shit?
[00:03:34] Dumbest shit?
[00:03:34] Yeah, no.
[00:03:36] Yeah, no.
[00:03:38] Yeah, no.
[00:03:38] Yeah, no.
[00:03:38] I went to bed at 10.
[00:03:40] My nigga, I see you liking shit on Instagram.
[00:03:41] I fucking...
[00:03:42] I'm much more likely to tell me the truth.
[00:03:43] Yeah.
[00:03:44] You're lying to me.
[00:03:44] I'm like, why are you lying?
[00:03:45] We're grown ups.
[00:03:45] Like why are you...
[00:03:46] I'm not gonna beat you, my nigga.
[00:03:48] Yeah, like, we're adults here.
[00:03:50] I feel like that just...
[00:03:50] It's like you kind of sneaky.
[00:03:52] Like, I don't like that.
[00:03:53] Yeah.
[00:03:54] And cheating.
[00:03:55] Last one.
[00:03:55] I think we all...
[00:03:56] The reason why I saved that for last, cause I think we all...
[00:04:00] Anybody crying in the sand?
[00:04:01] Anybody crying in the sand?
[00:04:02] Cheating?
[00:04:03] No.
[00:04:04] No.
[00:04:05] What if it was in the private?
[00:04:06] Can't forget that shit, bro.
[00:04:08] What if she cheated in private and the world doesn't know?
[00:04:16] You suck at this.
[00:04:18] You suck at this.
[00:04:19] Sure, you say that's a part of sex.
[00:04:21] Hold on.
[00:04:21] That nigga jumped out the car.
[00:04:23] Gotta chill.
[00:04:25] You didn't watch that video and shit, man?
[00:04:26] Yeah.
[00:04:27] Sure, you suck at this.
[00:04:28] Sure, you say that's a part of sex.
[00:04:30] I think he got the car.
[00:04:31] Yo, let me tell you something.
[00:04:34] We was in a group chat and it was me, Corey, and Crack, fuck it.
[00:04:40] And one of us got...
[00:04:44] Was in a jam, right?
[00:04:46] And somebody said the meme, they was talking about getting back with their girl cause it
[00:04:51] was done in private.
[00:04:52] Nobody know, right?
[00:04:53] So he sent the meme in the chat.
[00:04:55] The person sent the meme in the chat.
[00:04:57] Just remember, it slipped out and she put it right back in.
[00:05:05] So she had a chance to say, you know what?
[00:05:08] We should stop.
[00:05:09] But she put it right back in.
[00:05:13] Yeah, I ain't gonna cry.
[00:05:14] See, this nigga say shit like that, I can't forget.
[00:05:16] That is insane.
[00:05:18] You know what's crazy?
[00:05:19] The person got back with her but he never told us.
[00:05:25] Nah, I'm not.
[00:05:27] Hang on for a nap, I can't forget that.
[00:05:28] Nah, that's not funny, bro.
[00:05:30] That's not funny.
[00:05:30] It slipped out, Joe.
[00:05:32] And she put it back, she grabbed it and she put it right back.
[00:05:34] Yo, I ain't gonna cry, stop.
[00:05:35] Then she went back to you.
[00:05:36] Nah, stop, stop, stop, stop.
[00:05:37] And then she had the nerve to say she sorry.
[00:05:41] And now you gotta eat her poop.
[00:05:42] You know how?
[00:05:44] That's a few ton of hours.
[00:05:46] Never.
[00:05:47] Never.
[00:05:49] Never.
[00:05:50] Ain't he ate how?
[00:05:51] Yo.
[00:05:52] Yo.
[00:05:54] Yo.
[00:05:55] Like this.
[00:05:56] Probably sis, you pussy, man.
[00:05:58] You know what?
[00:05:58] Never mind.
[00:05:58] You know what?
[00:05:59] The same mode.
[00:06:02] Tough.
[00:06:03] Tough.
[00:06:04] And, and, if he was a better kill, she gonna be thinking about him.
[00:06:09] Imagine, imagine you ask her, babe, why are you so quiet?
[00:06:11] Nothing.
[00:06:12] Huh?
[00:06:12] Nothing.
[00:06:13] See?
[00:06:13] She cheating and lying.
[00:06:15] And then they're dumping her up and saying, yo, why this shit so deep?
[00:06:19] Shit.
[00:06:20] She got that pussy renovated.
[00:06:25] She added a floor.
[00:06:28] Yeah, I ain't gonna, I can't, yeah, yeah.
[00:06:31] Nigga, I don't know.
[00:06:31] I'm not, I'm not even so sure.
[00:06:33] Like, I know this is, uh, it's not the same as cheating, but it may hurt the same.
[00:06:40] May not.
[00:06:40] I don't know.
[00:06:41] It depends on how emotional you are.
[00:06:45] What do you mean?
[00:06:46] I need your laughter.
[00:06:48] I'm only talking to you, okay?
[00:06:49] You want to talk to me?
[00:06:50] I like it.
[00:06:51] I like it.
[00:06:51] I like it.
[00:06:51] I don't even, I'm talking to the ceiling.
[00:06:52] I think.
[00:06:53] So ceiling, you and your girl break up, y'all go, y'all separates, right?
[00:06:58] And she, uh, she has sex with somebody while y'all wet, y'all separates.
[00:07:03] Damn, dude.
[00:07:04] You're a slut.
[00:07:06] You're a fucking slut.
[00:07:08] You're a fucking slut.
[00:07:09] Finish the question.
[00:07:10] Let him finish the question.
[00:07:11] That shit hurt just as much as cheating if you ask me.
[00:07:14] Uh.
[00:07:14] Just a little separation?
[00:07:16] Mm-hmm.
[00:07:17] Eh.
[00:07:17] Damn.
[00:07:18] Get over it.
[00:07:19] 10 days.
[00:07:20] Be alright.
[00:07:21] Skrills, you don't love women, so I don't, it's hard to talk to you about certain conversations.
[00:07:26] So Skrills be doing the bending?
[00:07:27] Skrills don't be-
[00:07:28] I don't love?
[00:07:29] No.
[00:07:30] That's a crazy thing to say.
[00:07:32] Nah.
[00:07:32] I think for about a week.
[00:07:34] That's crazy.
[00:07:34] Skrills-
[00:07:35] You know Thanksgiving, that was it.
[00:07:36] Yo, chill.
[00:07:38] Chill.
[00:07:40] I just love it.
[00:07:41] She didn't make it to Christmas.
[00:07:43] Friendsmas.
[00:07:43] Friendsmas.
[00:07:44] Friendsmas?
[00:07:44] Was it Friendsmas?
[00:07:46] Oh yeah.
[00:07:46] Oh, it was a Thanksgiving.
[00:07:47] No, no, it was just us for Thanksgiving.
[00:07:49] Chill.
[00:07:50] She ain't making it to the new year.
[00:07:51] She been listening to Pods.
[00:07:52] I feel like what you're saying.
[00:07:52] Chill.
[00:07:53] Yeah.
[00:07:54] I doubt it.
[00:07:55] I doubt it.
[00:07:56] Not after what you told me a little bit earlier.
[00:07:57] Oh, for sure.
[00:07:58] I doubt it.
[00:07:59] But nah, son.
[00:08:00] My Skrills don't be on, so she probably don't expect a hand anymore.
[00:08:03] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:03] Nah, I be loving, bro.
[00:08:06] Skrills.
[00:08:06] It's just been a minute.
[00:08:07] It's just been-
[00:08:08] Yo, we gotta-
[00:08:09] I appreciate the questions.
[00:08:10] Skrills is bullshit.
[00:08:11] Skrills is bullshit.
[00:08:11] I ain't gonna fall off.
[00:08:12] I forgive Skrills with these lies.
[00:08:13] Skrills, it's hard to talk to you because like, you don't romantically invest long enough
[00:08:18] to see-
[00:08:19] Nigga, your last time you actually invested was years ago.
[00:08:22] Yeah, mad years ago.
[00:08:23] Yeah, right.
[00:08:24] That's why you literally detach after a while.
[00:08:25] So, for you, it ain't the same.
[00:08:29] Damn, nigga, we be for filth on the pod.
[00:08:31] You stop.
[00:08:32] Somebody gotta do it.
[00:08:33] Somebody gotta do it.
[00:08:34] Nah, that wasn't-
[00:08:35] On the pod?
[00:08:35] That wasn't my purpose, but still, it's just-
[00:08:37] It's hard to have certain conversations that require emotional investment.
[00:08:42] When you're rose up.
[00:08:43] When you don't invest in emotions.
[00:08:44] Yeah, I don't invest in emotions at all.
[00:08:46] So, yeah.
[00:08:47] I don't know.
[00:08:47] Money's not involved in niggas scribbling.
[00:08:49] I'm good.
[00:08:49] Yeah, I just smart my business.
[00:08:51] Yeah, so, you kinda gotta put it in Skrills' world.
[00:08:56] You know, him and his girls together, blah, blah, blah.
[00:08:58] They break up and she-
[00:08:59] She did too.
[00:09:01] Yeah, one nigga, one money or something like that.
[00:09:02] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:09:04] I mean, it's whatever it is, whatever it is.
[00:09:05] But-
[00:09:06] Cause I probably didn't care that much.
[00:09:07] So, it's fine.
[00:09:08] See?
[00:09:08] Yeah.
[00:09:09] But yeah, I-
[00:09:11] That shit, that shit.
[00:09:12] I can't-
[00:09:12] I can forgive that.
[00:09:14] You put up that like-
[00:09:15] But she didn't do nothing.
[00:09:16] That example's insane though.
[00:09:17] She didn't do nothing.
[00:09:18] Technically, right?
[00:09:19] Yeah.
[00:09:20] Y'all weren't together.
[00:09:21] Yeah.
[00:09:22] She got some.
[00:09:24] Y'all didn't break up so she could get some.
[00:09:25] Y'all just broke up.
[00:09:29] Mm-hmm.
[00:09:30] Mm-hmm.
[00:09:37] Yeah, we gotta get out of here.
[00:09:38] Multiple.
[00:09:39] She getting some sporting goods.
[00:09:45] Nigga said she shit doing sporting goods.
[00:09:47] Nigga said she doing dicks, bro.
[00:09:48] I gotta get the fuck outta here.
[00:09:50] Yo, so, shout outs to Kelsey.
[00:09:52] Kelsey, I hope you didn't cheat.
[00:09:54] It's funny cause she asked me that shit in person.
[00:09:56] Oh, she did?
[00:09:57] She wanted FaceTime.
[00:09:58] Yeah.
[00:09:58] She said, hey, shout out to the pod.
[00:10:00] Oh, oh, oh, on the rooftop.
[00:10:01] She said, um, GoldenEye.
[00:10:02] Yeah.
[00:10:03] Damn, dear summer.
[00:10:05] Yeah, so, shout outs to Kelsey.
[00:10:06] Well, she asked you that on the rooftop.
[00:10:07] What was your answer on the rooftop?
[00:10:09] Um-
[00:10:09] Did she cheat or she got cheated on?
[00:10:12] I'm gonna be rude.
[00:10:12] I'm gonna be paid too much attention to what people say.
[00:10:14] I care about my words, but not other people are.
[00:10:16] But, um-
[00:10:16] Oh, yeah.
[00:10:17] She asked me, she's like, oh, you know, would you take something back?
[00:10:19] I'm like, I don't know, but you know, this shit happens.
[00:10:24] There's people that get cheated on all the time, they get back together.
[00:10:27] You don't know.
[00:10:28] Mm.
[00:10:28] You know?
[00:10:30] Shit.
[00:10:31] I don't know.
[00:10:32] Well, I hope we answered everybody's question in full and thoughtful.
[00:10:36] I appreciate y'all, man.
[00:10:37] Yeah.
[00:10:37] Hopefully y'all bring some more questions up and um, thank y'all for supporting.
[00:10:40] Like, comment, subscribe, and make sure y'all subscribe.
[00:10:43] Yeah, facts.
[00:10:43] There's a lot of y'all out there that's not subscribed in this.
[00:10:45] It doesn't make any sense, but shout out to y'all.
[00:10:49] Tee hee hee hee hee hee.
[00:10:51] She know I'm a ticket out.
[00:10:52] Niggas said tee hee hee hee hee hee.
[00:10:54] I don't know.
[00:11:01] Even my home, even my home.
[00:11:02] Even these , like.
[00:11:06] And she even like, yo, I ain't gonna front.
[00:11:09] Yeah, that's too much.
[00:11:10] Mm.
[00:11:12] Yeah, bro.
[00:11:13] Nah.
[00:11:14] Nah.
[00:11:14] I feel like, I feel like.
[00:11:18] See, life is all about ascension, right?
[00:11:20] So, where you at today don't mean that the person you dealing with won't ever get there.
[00:11:25] But if it's no sign that you even trying to get there, you wasting your time.
[00:11:30] Cause we all inspiring to do something that we love.
[00:11:33] You locked out?
[00:11:35] Yeah, you locked out.
[00:11:37] Oh.
[00:11:38] We're all.
[00:11:39] Nah, we are, but it's cool.
[00:11:40] So, we're all aspiring to get to places.
[00:11:43] Mm.
[00:11:43] And wherever that place lands us, at least it, at least it lands us in a place of happiness.
[00:11:49] Mm.
[00:11:50] Right?
[00:11:50] Cause that's what we, we're doing this for.
[00:11:52] Even if it comes with the money or whatever, it's something that at least makes us happy.
[00:11:57] If they just content where they are, that's cool.
[00:12:00] But that ain't where I want to be.
[00:12:02] Mm.
[00:12:03] So, the higher I go up, I'm gonna end up leaving you.
[00:12:07] Yeah, damn point right there, brother.
[00:12:09] I'm gonna end up leaving you.
[00:12:10] You're right.
[00:12:11] Cause where you at right now is, I don't even want to be there.
[00:12:14] I'm not even there.
[00:12:15] What's the person that you truly love?
[00:12:16] You just gotta leave that alone there?
[00:12:17] The person I truly love is already aspiring to do whatever they want to do that makes them happy.
[00:12:21] We just trying to combine our worlds together.
[00:12:24] You know?
[00:12:25] So, she into fashion and I'm a flight attendant.
[00:12:28] She could do fashion week in Paris.
[00:12:30] We could do fashion week in Hawaii.
[00:12:31] I'll be there, baby.
[00:12:33] Trying to combine.
[00:12:33] This nigga, are you blushing for him?
[00:12:35] This nigga blush for him is crazy.
[00:12:38] Nigga come and say,
[00:12:39] Yo, nah.
[00:12:41] It took me a minute, just a little bit.
[00:12:44] Like, yo.
[00:12:45] You know?
[00:12:45] So we could just combine worlds, you know?
[00:12:47] This nigga's very intentional with his words, yo.
[00:12:49] This nigga LA is very mindful.
[00:12:50] Very mindful, bro.
[00:12:52] Nasty motherfucker.
[00:12:52] But you already know this motherfucker.
[00:12:55] This is the most of your love as Zoe.
[00:12:57] I'm hoping.
[00:12:58] Alongside the LaShawn.
[00:12:59] Another beautiful day.
[00:13:00] Here at NYC.
[00:13:02] Got the fellas with us.
[00:13:03] Hopefully, everybody's week is starting off great whenever you're listening to this.
[00:13:06] Hope you started your day with positivity.
[00:13:08] Looking at these gorgeous faces.
[00:13:10] Facts.
[00:13:11] We just happy to be here.
[00:13:12] Happy to have you out here supporting us.
[00:13:14] We just want to say thank you to y'all.
[00:13:16] LA, how you feeling today, brother?
[00:13:17] I'm good, man.
[00:13:17] I can't complain.
[00:13:19] Another day, another pod.
[00:13:20] You know, it is what it is.
[00:13:22] I'm hanging with the fellas.
[00:13:23] We got Si in the building.
[00:13:25] We got Joe.
[00:13:27] Joe in the building.
[00:13:29] And we also got somebody in the audience.
[00:13:30] We ain't really fucking with them today.
[00:13:32] Skrills is here!
[00:13:32] My man Skrills in the building.
[00:13:33] Skrills is here!
[00:13:35] Mr. I'm just doing my job.
[00:13:37] Skrills is here.
[00:13:39] We like that.
[00:13:39] We like when Skrills is here.
[00:13:42] What's going on LA?
[00:13:44] Talk to me, papa.
[00:13:45] Let me tell you this situation, right?
[00:13:47] Uh-oh.
[00:13:47] So, nah, nah, nah, nah, nothing crazy.
[00:13:49] We all safe for the next three pods.
[00:13:53] That's not that many, though.
[00:13:55] Four and three monies is kind of crazy.
[00:13:56] For, what's this?
[00:13:57] What month we in?
[00:13:58] September?
[00:13:59] Maybe.
[00:14:00] I thought it was October.
[00:14:01] By the time this come out, it's probably in October.
[00:14:03] We should have a good Halloween.
[00:14:04] Nothing spooky on this side.
[00:14:06] Right?
[00:14:06] I'm going on vacation.
[00:14:08] Cool.
[00:14:08] Oh, so we definitely safe.
[00:14:10] We gonna make sure everybody happy.
[00:14:12] Alright, cool.
[00:14:12] So, um, I don't want to say too much.
[00:14:18] Because that actually goes into the pod, right?
[00:14:21] So, an opportunity presented itself to me last week.
[00:14:28] Nah, no pussy is involved in these episodes coming up.
[00:14:31] Okay.
[00:14:32] Meow.
[00:14:32] You know?
[00:14:33] And, um, so, an opportunity to, uh, help produce a podcast for a very well-known person
[00:14:46] in the industry presented itself, uh, last week.
[00:14:49] Mm-hmm.
[00:14:50] And, um, shit.
[00:14:54] I don't, I, I, at first, at first, uh, I said no without knowing, um, no without knowing
[00:15:04] what it was or who it was because my plate was full.
[00:15:07] Mm-hmm.
[00:15:08] And then after the person told me who it was full.
[00:15:11] I changed my mind a little bit.
[00:15:12] My son made, my son made some space on the plate.
[00:15:15] You know, you kinda, kinda.
[00:15:17] Moody's, Moody's green sit inside a little bit.
[00:15:19] You know why?
[00:15:20] Because, uh, because honestly, this was an opportunity that I was kinda asking God for.
[00:15:26] Like, yo, I kinda need, uh, what was that?
[00:15:28] Something went on.
[00:15:29] Oh, the battery exhaustive.
[00:15:31] On which one?
[00:15:33] This one.
[00:15:33] Um, so, so, in my mind I'm like, nah.
[00:15:40] The salary is okay.
[00:15:43] Or the salary, before the salary gets to the negotiation part, I didn't wanna cheat myself
[00:15:49] out of an opportunity.
[00:15:50] Right?
[00:15:52] But now that I put my, what I want on the table, I'm like, I've had this, I'm having
[00:15:58] this feeling like, like, damn, like, I don't wanna get my hopes up.
[00:16:02] Like, I'm really like, this could, this could be a life changing opportunity for me as far
[00:16:08] as, um, entrepreneur-wise.
[00:16:12] But at the same time, I've been in positions where I felt this before, did it, and it ain't
[00:16:17] changed nothing.
[00:16:19] Uh, one of the prime examples, um, one of the biggest things that I thought would have changed
[00:16:25] my life was, uh, doing the Holyfield podcast.
[00:16:29] Evander Holyfield and his, uh, his children, Yvette, and, um, his two sons.
[00:16:35] They had hit me up to, well, a friend of mine who was close to the family hit me up to produce
[00:16:45] their pod.
[00:16:46] And we did 10 episodes.
[00:16:48] I think three was in New York.
[00:16:51] No, three was in Jersey.
[00:16:53] Four was in Miami.
[00:16:55] And the others was in Atlanta.
[00:16:57] And we did one season of it, 10 episodes, and it never seemed to light a day.
[00:17:05] And I was like, I, that, that whole time I'm like, oh, this about to change my life.
[00:17:12] And then, um, it never came out.
[00:17:15] I still got the footage.
[00:17:17] I still got the files, still got the audio.
[00:17:19] Uh, but just out of respect for everybody, I'm still super close with, uh, Evette.
[00:17:25] And I never released it.
[00:17:27] Uh, cause technically we, we signed a contract and I don't own, I don't own the content.
[00:17:33] And, but they never really asked for the footage.
[00:17:35] So I never deleted it just in case if they say, hey, you know, we might put this out.
[00:17:38] Cause some of the content isn't, um, some of the content isn't, uh,
[00:17:44] Is it evergreen stuff?
[00:17:45] Like you could always, always post it.
[00:17:47] Rob Markman, some of it, some of it we did current events.
[00:17:50] So some of it is kind of dated.
[00:17:52] It's dated.
[00:17:52] Yeah.
[00:17:53] But some of it is evergreen.
[00:17:54] There was one conversation where he explained his purpose of remarrying so many times.
[00:18:01] Rob Markman, Oh, that can live forever.
[00:18:02] Rob Markman, That is, that is stuff, yeah.
[00:18:04] Rob Markman, His explanation was interesting.
[00:18:08] Like he, to paraphrase, he kind of explained, he kind of said that he kind of went after women
[00:18:14] who looked like his first wife.
[00:18:17] So all his kids could look the same.
[00:18:19] Rob Markman, Okay.
[00:18:20] I mean, okay.
[00:18:22] Rob Markman, So content wise, you, in the back of my producer brain, like,
[00:18:25] Oh, this is going to go crazy.
[00:18:28] Rob Markman, I'm editing this tonight.
[00:18:31] Rob Markman, So my mind, all the things that we were talking about, and then as crazy enough
[00:18:39] towards the end, they kind of needed somebody to help narrate or lead the pod.
[00:18:44] Rob Markman, So I got added to the pod.
[00:18:47] Rob Markman, So I was on episode maybe four through ten with them.
[00:18:52] Rob Markman, That's a lot of that.
[00:18:54] Rob Markman, So me being on a podcast, chopping it up with Evander Holyfield, I'm like,
[00:19:00] alright, this is about to change my fucking life.
[00:19:05] Rob Markman, Never came out.
[00:19:08] Rob Markman, So ever since then, even with like birthdays and I think I've expressed on
[00:19:16] the pod that I kind of like don't get my hopes up.
[00:19:19] Rob Markman, I don't like surprises.
[00:19:20] I don't like, but I feel like that is kind of taking the joy away out of life because
[00:19:26] sometimes it's something that keeps you going, it's things you look forward to.
[00:19:30] Rob Markman, But when you teeter the lines of not getting your hopes up or preparing for
[00:19:37] disappointment, you really don't.
[00:19:39] Even now as crazy as it sounds, when me used to dating somebody or talking to somebody, I'm
[00:19:46] already, you know, let's see the last name matches, vacations.
[00:19:51] Now it's kind of like, I'm cool with the talking and just letting it build up and if it don't
[00:19:56] work, it don't work because I feel like I take my hopes out of all things that can positively
[00:20:04] go right.
[00:20:05] Rob Markman, That moves a lot of excitement for real though.
[00:20:07] Rob Markman, It does.
[00:20:08] Rob Markman, How can you see the-
[00:20:09] Rob Markman, It keeps me stoic though.
[00:20:10] Rob Markman, You don't feel like that's affecting the end result?
[00:20:13] Rob Markman, And the thing about it is though, you're putting up a wall every time.
[00:20:15] Rob Markman, The only thing that that mentality of expecting this shit to go bad regardless
[00:20:21] is just-
[00:20:21] Rob Markman, No, see it's not expecting it to go bad, but it's not putting enough extra
[00:20:27] stock in it going good.
[00:20:29] Rob Markman, But don't you need extra stock for it to go good?
[00:20:31] Rob Markman, No.
[00:20:31] Rob Markman, You don't think so?
[00:20:32] Rob Markman, Cause if it's mine, it's mine, right?
[00:20:33] That's what they be saying to us.
[00:20:35] Rob Markman, That's what they be saying.
[00:20:36] Rob Markman, That's what they be saying.
[00:20:37] Rob Markman, Whatever yours is yours.
[00:20:39] Rob Markman, So if it didn't land, if it wasn't for me, then it wasn't for me.
[00:20:42] Rob Markman, But you never know if it had to fall into your lap.
[00:20:45] Rob Markman, It got to pass my face.
[00:20:46] Rob Markman, Yo, I knew he was going to do that shit.
[00:20:48] Rob Markman, That's what we said.
[00:20:50] Rob Markman, What's the difference?
[00:20:52] Rob Markman, That's what we said.
[00:20:54] Rob Markman, It just wasn't for you yet.
[00:20:56] Rob Markman, That too.
[00:20:56] Rob Markman, Or maybe that opportunity.
[00:20:58] So like for this one, it's to the point where I'm to the point now where like, I don't even
[00:21:03] prematurely speak about shit.
[00:21:05] Rob Markman, The only reason why Kojo knew because he was there at the dinner table when it was
[00:21:07] happening.
[00:21:08] Rob Markman, He was like, yo bro, please make time for that.
[00:21:11] Rob Markman, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:12] Rob Markman, Please, you better fix that.
[00:21:14] Rob Markman, Absolutely.
[00:21:15] Rob Markman, I was like, nah, we ain't about to sit here and complain about what's not happening
[00:21:18] and what hasn't happened.
[00:21:19] Rob Markman, And then this comes to your lap and you're like, eh.
[00:21:22] Rob Markman, Yeah, so even that is kind of like, damn, I don't even want to speak on it
[00:21:26] because damn, anybody actually, what happened to it?
[00:21:29] Damn, I ain't get it.
[00:21:30] Rob Markman, Less people to know, less people to talk about it, shit like that.
[00:21:33] Rob Markman, I even feel like the way the job market is for people, so many people going
[00:21:37] on constant interviews.
[00:21:38] Rob Markman, Every time I see on the timeline somebody like, I applied for a hundred jobs and nobody get
[00:21:43] it, so that means you was denied a hundred times.
[00:21:46] Rob Markman, Mm-hmm .
[00:21:46] Rob Markman, That's tough.
[00:21:47] Rob Markman, So I feel you on that, bro.
[00:21:49] I ain't gonna lie.
[00:21:50] I know this is about myself sometimes.
[00:21:53] I also told myself I wasn't going to announce things because I felt like me putting it out
[00:21:57] there was causing things to not go all the way through.
[00:22:01] So my excitement of like, yo, yo, yo, like the Red Bull thing, I didn't even want to say
[00:22:05] nothing about that shit.
[00:22:06] But I was also very excited, you know what I'm saying?
[00:22:08] Rob Markman, But it came to a point where I was like, yo, the idea that I had and the
[00:22:12] concept that I had pitched, like everybody loved it.
[00:22:15] And then when it was time to present, it was like, I bet this is amazing, but we can't do
[00:22:20] this because of X, X, X, X. So I had to like strip down my idea and I'm still proud of what
[00:22:25] came of it.
[00:22:26] Rob Markman, But what I was so excited about, I had to turn down a little bit.
[00:22:30] Still the biggest thing I ever did, but it's like, damn, it ain't 100% joke.
[00:22:36] Rob Markman, I can't lie.
[00:22:36] That's the mode I'm in right now.
[00:22:37] Like, I'm even, funny thing about talking to Cyrus about it.
[00:22:40] He's like, what you doing?
[00:22:41] You good?
[00:22:41] If I see your phone on D&D, that's like my phone ain't on D&D because I'm in a bad mood.
[00:22:44] It's more of like, I'm doing something.
[00:22:46] What you doing?
[00:22:46] Rob Markman, What you doing?
[00:22:47] Rob Markman, I'm doing something right now.
[00:22:49] Rob Markman, I don't want to put it out there.
[00:22:50] Like, yeah, I love niggas to death.
[00:22:51] I love, I'll tell y'all anything, but it's like, I gotta keep this shit to myself right
[00:22:55] now.
[00:22:55] Rob Markman, Tryna break out of that.
[00:22:56] Rob Markman, But it comes down to alignment at the end of the day.
[00:22:59] You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:59] Like, you know, perfect example.
[00:23:01] Like, when I'm, but I shift careers at 25.
[00:23:03] You know what I'm saying?
[00:23:05] And you know, where I'm at now in life, as I said, I was talking earlier.
[00:23:08] Like, if I can talk to myself when I was younger and who I am now and say this is where
[00:23:11] I be at now in life, I'd be like, well, God damn.
[00:23:14] You know what I'm saying?
[00:23:14] So it comes down to alignment.
[00:23:16] So if this particular endeavor is for you, it's going to be for you regardless because
[00:23:20] you have the resume, you have that, you have the footprint that you've done throughout
[00:23:25] the course of your time.
[00:23:26] Rob Markman, That Holyfield would have looked crazy on my, like that.
[00:23:29] I feel like that's the difference between what we doing now and HBO and like, who knows
[00:23:36] what that would have picked up.
[00:23:37] Cause it wasn't even on no type of like, it wasn't to compete with Mike Tyson's podcast.
[00:23:43] Cause you know how they're always aligned.
[00:23:46] And that, that episode was in the works.
[00:23:49] Cause when, cause what the goal was, was to record season one.
[00:23:54] Rob Markman, Wait, Holyfield and Mike was in the work?
[00:23:56] That was in the work.
[00:23:57] Rob Markman, Oh, I would've lost my shit.
[00:23:58] That was in the work.
[00:23:59] Rob Markman, I ain't gonna lost.
[00:23:59] I'm flying out for that one.
[00:24:01] Rob Markman, Cause around that time, remember they were supposed to fight.
[00:24:05] Again?
[00:24:05] Yeah.
[00:24:05] They were supposed to fight.
[00:24:06] So to build promo around it, they would've did the pod.
[00:24:10] Holyfield ended up doing his pod, but a lot of people didn't know that we were working
[00:24:16] on a pod, right?
[00:24:18] So they, what their, their goal was to shoot season one and shop it to other people to
[00:24:27] get sponsorships.
[00:24:28] Smart.
[00:24:28] Rob Markman, But what I was saying to them was the fact that Holyfield isn't a, a social
[00:24:37] celebrity and people are unaware of the kids and the role they played in their upbringing
[00:24:43] and all of that.
[00:24:45] Getting a brand to just buy in.
[00:24:47] It's gonna be tough.
[00:24:48] It's gonna be tough.
[00:24:49] Let's just put season one out independently.
[00:24:53] And feed them real quick.
[00:24:54] Feed them.
[00:24:55] See what we can garnish the audience.
[00:24:57] See if they captivating.
[00:24:58] See if we can land other people.
[00:25:00] And then since season one is already done, season two the same thing.
[00:25:05] We just, now we, now we have something.
[00:25:08] We have analytics.
[00:25:09] Yeah.
[00:25:09] Cool.
[00:25:11] But because the, you know, I was new to them.
[00:25:15] So I kind of wanted to play it cool until they started asking me out my opinion.
[00:25:20] And then it was like, yo, you know what?
[00:25:22] You do this podcast thing better than all of us.
[00:25:24] Join the pod.
[00:25:27] Fuck it.
[00:25:28] You got to tell me twice.
[00:25:29] Make sure it's your serious question.
[00:25:30] Was the juice worth the squeeze?
[00:25:32] Oh, I got juiced.
[00:25:33] I got juiced.
[00:25:35] Uh, they paid well.
[00:25:36] And you know what?
[00:25:37] Now that, now that, now that, um, now that I think about it, sometimes the pay, the pay,
[00:25:42] uh, doesn't, um, doesn't equate to the opportunity.
[00:25:47] Bro.
[00:25:48] Can I, yo, I feel that way about the Flatbush Reimagined thing.
[00:25:52] Yeah.
[00:25:52] When Allen Berger bought the logo for me.
[00:25:55] Yeah.
[00:25:55] It felt great.
[00:25:56] They paid me a great amount of money for that.
[00:25:59] Bro.
[00:26:28] Bro.
[00:26:29] I mean, even if, even if I only did season one and then they be like, you know, this company
[00:26:38] bought it.
[00:26:38] We're going to use our producers.
[00:26:39] Cause that's what happened with another podcast that I helped.
[00:26:41] Bro.
[00:26:41] He's going to say that too.
[00:26:43] Um, I would have been okay with that because season one is totally executive produced by
[00:26:49] that's my resume.
[00:26:51] That's your shit.
[00:26:51] That's your shit.
[00:26:51] It's productions.
[00:26:52] I could have left.
[00:26:53] I could have pivoted my career now and just went into straight-
[00:26:56] Based off of that.
[00:26:56] Just, just off of that.
[00:26:57] Like my phone, I'm pretty sure my phone would have ranked at least once, not off the chain,
[00:27:02] but at least once, you know, come, come along this project.
[00:27:05] And matter of fact, from what I was told, me not being a part of them is non-negotiable.
[00:27:14] Whether I was a, whether I was talent or whether I was production.
[00:27:17] Non-negotiable.
[00:27:17] So you was alone for the ride.
[00:27:19] Yeah.
[00:27:19] LeSean is with us.
[00:27:20] LeSean has done everything.
[00:27:21] He edited audio, he did everything.
[00:27:24] Cool.
[00:27:25] Or even if I, cause, um, uh, I even brought Lama along to do the audio.
[00:27:35] So he, he, uh, he cleaned up the audio.
[00:27:37] But even then it was like, damn, I was able to, that opportunity helped me be able to
[00:27:43] help somebody else.
[00:27:44] You know what I'm saying?
[00:27:44] So it was like, damn, we could have brought mad people along.
[00:27:49] So that, yo bro, that, that shit crushed my heart.
[00:27:52] So this opportunity, my mans, my mans hit me up about it.
[00:27:56] So, and the funny thing about it, me and him, he got on my nerves that day.
[00:28:01] Um, and, but he was like, you know, bro, like, I know you not, I know you mad, but I got
[00:28:08] something for you.
[00:28:09] I was like, at first I was still mad.
[00:28:11] So I kind of wasn't really, I was driving to the city.
[00:28:14] And, um, so I wasn't picking up.
[00:28:17] But then when I saw the message, I'm like, ah, son.
[00:28:22] You check this out.
[00:28:23] Get over it.
[00:28:24] This is an opportunity.
[00:28:25] So, so for me, I was just like, yo, like I'm in this space where I really don't get my
[00:28:30] hopes up about too much, bro.
[00:28:32] But I feel like that's sucking the life out of me.
[00:28:35] I ain't gonna make that negative, but you know.
[00:28:38] No, no, I'm trying to keep it serious.
[00:28:40] But, I mean, so, I mean, you, you can't have that mindset.
[00:28:46] You know what I'm saying?
[00:28:46] So when I, when I was in my fashion endeavors, I had, this is before a lot of celebrities are
[00:28:51] where they at now.
[00:28:52] I've had people reach out to me like, yo, I would love you to help design the clothing
[00:28:55] line.
[00:28:55] Or I'm thinking about going on tour, can you help design merch and stuff like that?
[00:28:58] You know what I'm saying?
[00:28:59] And shit never fell through, but I didn't be like, well, damn, this shit didn't fall through.
[00:29:02] I'm gonna stop doing it.
[00:29:03] And maybe you're like, all right, cool.
[00:29:04] That means that people are invested.
[00:29:05] They see what I'm doing.
[00:29:06] They see my craft.
[00:29:06] They want to see more of what my work that I've done.
[00:29:09] It's not like I'm sitting here like, I'm gonna stop doing it.
[00:29:12] You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:13] You gonna phone your face a million times.
[00:29:15] You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:16] You can phone a desktop though.
[00:29:17] I saw it.
[00:29:17] See?
[00:29:18] And then when you go into that conversation, it comes to what I want in life.
[00:29:22] If you see where the fashion industry is going now, I'm not saying it's horrible, but it's
[00:29:27] unstructured.
[00:29:27] It's not the same.
[00:29:29] What are you talking about?
[00:29:29] Just the baggy jeans and all that shit?
[00:29:31] No, not even that.
[00:29:32] Just the overall structure of fashion now.
[00:29:34] Like before you can go into, you used to be able to go into Tom Ford and know like,
[00:29:38] all right, well, listen, I'm gonna find this belted, suited jacket.
[00:29:41] I'm gonna find these matching shoes.
[00:29:43] I'm gonna find these matching loafers.
[00:29:44] You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:44] You can go into Gucci and you can find, I'm gonna find this Gucci shirt to go with these things.
[00:29:48] You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:48] Now you don't know if you're going in-
[00:29:50] You gotta go to four different stores.
[00:29:51] Yeah, you go to four different stores to find a different concept.
[00:29:52] That is very true.
[00:29:53] You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:53] So I remember when I was in Prada?
[00:29:57] Yeah.
[00:29:58] And I was hitting you, yo bro, I'm on my third store.
[00:30:00] So I got the top at one store and then I hit Cyrus.
[00:30:05] I was like, yo, you fuck with these socks.
[00:30:06] I was at a whole different store because the store didn't have the socks.
[00:30:09] So I went to every Prada store in New York to put together that one outfit.
[00:30:13] You sure you're talking about the same outfit for burgers and bottles?
[00:30:15] Burgers and bottles, yeah.
[00:30:16] Damn it.
[00:30:18] You know what I'm saying?
[00:30:18] So it was like, you have all these-
[00:30:20] The shoes I got in San Fran though.
[00:30:22] Shoes?
[00:30:23] Yeah.
[00:30:23] And that's another thing about too, the fashion industry is being robbed of exclusivity because
[00:30:28] they're trying to limit the market of where things are and dictate the fashion in certain
[00:30:33] cities and certain places and certain, you know what I'm saying?
[00:30:35] So you go to Paris and you see a whole different collection than you see in New York or you
[00:30:40] see in Milan or you see in Tokyo.
[00:30:42] It's four different things.
[00:30:43] You know what I'm saying?
[00:30:43] So now you're trying to-
[00:30:45] Actually have a Milan Paris shopper.
[00:30:47] You know what I mean?
[00:30:49] I'm here to make a move.
[00:30:50] You know what I'm saying?
[00:30:50] But you know what I'm saying?
[00:30:51] So it's not about me ever stopping.
[00:30:53] I still love fashion.
[00:30:54] I'm still going to always be the fashionable person, but it comes down to aligning now
[00:30:58] where I want to be in the fashion industry.
[00:31:00] You know what I'm saying?
[00:31:01] So if I'm going to put an outfit together, like, all right, people say Ralph Lauren goes
[00:31:04] out of style.
[00:31:05] Not because I have it right now.
[00:31:06] Never.
[00:31:06] You know what I'm saying?
[00:31:07] People say that.
[00:31:08] But people don't understand.
[00:31:09] Like there's more to Ralph Lauren than what you see.
[00:31:12] You see the polos.
[00:31:13] You see that.
[00:31:14] Like people don't understand.
[00:31:15] Like you have on that American, that iconic American flag sweater, bro, in your wardrobe,
[00:31:19] bro.
[00:31:20] That's a piece that's going to last forever, bro.
[00:31:22] You take care of that garment.
[00:31:24] If you sell one from back you got in the 90s now, you'd get probably 10K for that,
[00:31:27] bro.
[00:31:28] So there's so many different realms and stuff like that.
[00:31:31] And you find your person in fashion and it's like, boom.
[00:31:33] But there's so many lookalikes.
[00:31:35] Like perfect example, right?
[00:31:36] Not trying to go on a rant.
[00:31:37] Everybody's a fashion stylist now.
[00:31:39] You're not a fashion stylist, bro.
[00:31:40] You're just a person that buys a lot of, I don't want to say any names.
[00:31:44] You know what I'm saying?
[00:31:44] Because I ain't trying to, you know, buy a lot of X, Y, and brands and put it together.
[00:31:48] You have all these fast fashion clothes.
[00:31:49] They go out of style.
[00:31:51] How are your fashion stylists?
[00:31:52] Anybody can put an outfit together.
[00:31:54] But does it look good on that body type?
[00:31:55] Does it look good on this body type?
[00:31:56] You know what I'm saying?
[00:31:58] If I'm putting down an outfit, I'm not going to put this in a tightest jeans.
[00:32:01] I got to feel what silhouette he wears.
[00:32:02] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:03] They're going to put me a Timo Wealthus tilt.
[00:32:06] Nah, you get what I'm saying?
[00:32:07] Yeah.
[00:32:08] You know, it's, you're putting, this topic is so broad when it comes to fashion.
[00:32:13] People are putting themselves in positions because they look good and not because of
[00:32:17] what they know.
[00:32:18] People saying, I pulled this outfit.
[00:32:19] You didn't pull the outfit.
[00:32:20] Nigga, you walked into the store and said this was cool and just bought it.
[00:32:22] So you get excited, you get excited still?
[00:32:25] Like with life period.
[00:32:26] Yeah.
[00:32:27] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:27] Every opportunity is an opportunity.
[00:32:29] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:29] Not everything is going to go your way.
[00:32:32] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:33] But you got to take what life gives you.
[00:32:34] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:56] I'm a liar.
[00:32:56] This is something I tend to do when I used to apply for jobs.
[00:33:02] I look at the salary, see how much it is.
[00:33:04] If I get the job, spend that money before I even interview.
[00:33:07] I'm like, I'm going to do this.
[00:33:09] I'm going to do that.
[00:33:10] I'm going to do that.
[00:33:11] I'm going to do this.
[00:33:11] I'm going to do that.
[00:33:12] And then I go for the interview.
[00:33:14] Think I killed the interview.
[00:33:15] Bodied the interview.
[00:33:16] Boom.
[00:33:17] Didn't get the job.
[00:33:18] One job that I did that for, Apple.
[00:33:21] I went in there, bodied that interview.
[00:33:23] Killed it.
[00:33:24] Killed it.
[00:33:25] We getting vulnerable.
[00:33:26] I got something to say.
[00:33:27] It was a group interview.
[00:33:29] Matter of fact, it was to the point where it was a group interview and the lady just
[00:33:34] kept talking to me and somebody was in the back sucking AT because she only wanted to
[00:33:39] talk to me.
[00:33:40] Cooking.
[00:33:40] Cooking and shit, right?
[00:33:42] You're not a team player.
[00:33:43] Nah.
[00:33:44] You know what it was?
[00:33:45] What?
[00:33:45] At the time I still had Delta.
[00:33:46] They told me-
[00:33:47] Oh, you can only work in one place.
[00:33:48] Yes.
[00:33:49] What the hell you think somebody is?
[00:33:50] Yup.
[00:33:50] I never been so hurt by a job interview.
[00:33:56] Oh, we talking pain?
[00:33:57] I'm talking about like, I went to Sprint and started using an Android.
[00:34:02] I did not want to use Apple products.
[00:34:04] That was your work for.
[00:34:05] Yup.
[00:34:07] Yup.
[00:34:07] Yup.
[00:34:07] So I was like, yo, I couldn't escape Apple.
[00:34:12] It's everywhere.
[00:34:13] Right?
[00:34:13] But at the same time I was so hurt that I was like, nah.
[00:34:18] I mean, to answer your question, it's difficult to, you know, now, especially through experience
[00:34:23] to like anticipate the good with and prepare.
[00:34:26] Because yo, bro, I swear.
[00:34:27] I remember when, you know, the Ebony Magazine opportunity came across the desk and we was
[00:34:34] all excited.
[00:34:35] Yeah.
[00:34:35] Like, oh, nah, that's yours.
[00:34:36] Yo, that's yours.
[00:34:38] And Don was right next to me during one of my interviews.
[00:34:40] And, you know, I remember when we was in your car, we was looking up the salary.
[00:34:43] Niggas is just thinking big.
[00:34:44] Cause it's like, yo, how can't this happen?
[00:34:47] Yeah.
[00:34:47] I'm about to get 160K.
[00:34:48] You sacrifice, you've done through all of that.
[00:34:50] Like, yo, yeah, Joe, what apartment you want?
[00:34:52] Like it was, it was, it was getting in and then it just don't happen because of whatever
[00:34:56] reason.
[00:34:56] I still don't know.
[00:34:58] Um, it's hard, it's hard to now.
[00:35:00] It's defeating.
[00:35:01] It's hard.
[00:35:01] Yeah.
[00:35:02] It's hard to even look at a job application after that.
[00:35:06] Know what I'm saying?
[00:35:06] So it's, it's, it's, it's, expectations, bro.
[00:35:09] I don't have any anymore, bro.
[00:35:11] It's, it's crazy that you said that we, I fight me and Joe be having those conversations
[00:35:14] about fucking job apps.
[00:35:15] I'll send Joe job apps up.
[00:35:16] I know Joe don't want to look at this shit or not, but fuck it.
[00:35:18] Like I'm gonna send it to him.
[00:35:19] And he send them and it don't matter what time of the day, night.
[00:35:21] I'll send that shit.
[00:35:22] Bro, I look at jobs at one in the morning, bro.
[00:35:24] I was like, if I'm up at three, I'm gonna send them shits, bro.
[00:35:26] It doesn't matter.
[00:35:27] Cause it's like, yo, if I see this job and it'll work for you, cool.
[00:35:29] Fuck it, bro.
[00:35:30] There's so many jobs.
[00:35:31] I got denied.
[00:35:32] I never told job, bro.
[00:35:34] Buzzfeed.
[00:35:35] I did an interview for Buzzfeed.
[00:35:37] This is when I was in fucking Miami for a wedding, bro.
[00:35:40] I'm doing the interview.
[00:35:41] Shorty said, and I quote, I'm actually not gonna quote her because she was like, yo,
[00:35:45] no, I think you'll be perfect for this.
[00:35:46] I think you'll be perfect for this opportunity.
[00:35:48] I'm going to talk to the other manager and we'll get you on board.
[00:35:53] Rob Markman, she said that on her-
[00:35:53] Rob Markman, it's out her mouth.
[00:35:55] On Tuesday, cause nigga, I'm, I'm excited.
[00:35:57] Mm, lit.
[00:35:58] Mm, mm.
[00:35:58] And you in Miami?
[00:35:59] Nigga, I'm lit!
[00:36:00] Nigga bought a bottle that night.
[00:36:01] Nigga bought a bottle that night.
[00:36:03] Nigga be lit!
[00:36:04] Oh, man.
[00:36:05] Nigga, I might go to the strip club, nigga.
[00:36:06] We do that!
[00:36:07] Oh, man.
[00:36:08] Nigga.
[00:36:08] On Tuesday, nigga, Tuesday.
[00:36:11] Get it.
[00:36:13] All I see is Buzzfeed.
[00:36:14] Unfortunately, I said, yo, bro, look at my phone.
[00:36:16] Nah.
[00:36:16] And man, nigga, that was after so many times of me doing drop apps and I'm like, yo, bro,
[00:36:20] I can't get excited.
[00:36:21] This time, I said, yo, nah.
[00:36:22] Or doing interviews and not getting excited.
[00:36:23] This time, I said, nah, I'm excited.
[00:36:24] Buzzfeed got wrapped up, right?
[00:36:26] Did they?
[00:36:26] Oh, they stopped.
[00:36:26] No, no, no.
[00:36:27] They still in motion.
[00:36:28] Bro, after interviews, constant interviews, not being excited.
[00:36:32] That time, I said, nah, it's fucking lit.
[00:36:34] It's madness, cuz.
[00:36:35] You hear me?
[00:36:36] I'm lit, nigga.
[00:36:37] It's fucking finally, my nigga.
[00:36:38] It's finally hit.
[00:36:39] Yeah.
[00:36:40] That's the tune, bro.
[00:36:41] I said, my nigga.
[00:36:42] Oh, my God.
[00:36:44] It's a crazy, tricky hill, cuz I actually have, it's a crazy story.
[00:36:47] I got a little one, actually.
[00:36:48] Where my job at now, where I'm at now, when I first got into my field of work, you know
[00:36:52] what I'm saying?
[00:36:52] I had a, oh my gosh, I just had my car and shit like that.
[00:36:55] I had to figure out how I was gonna do life.
[00:36:56] You know what I'm saying?
[00:36:56] I'm getting paid $69 an hour.
[00:36:57] You know what I'm saying?
[00:36:58] I'm waking up at six o'clock in the morning to go to work.
[00:37:00] I'm applying, applying, applying.
[00:37:02] The job where I'm at now, they called me back.
[00:37:04] I went there, I did the interview, I did the fitness test, everything like that.
[00:37:07] I'm like, oh, I got this shit in the bag.
[00:37:09] They said, unfortunately, we don't want it, yada, yada.
[00:37:12] A year later now, I'm at another job I'm at.
[00:37:14] You know what I'm saying?
[00:37:15] They paying the right money and stuff like that, but I'm trying to get a raise.
[00:37:17] They bullshitting me around.
[00:37:18] I then applied for this same set job again.
[00:37:22] Two weeks, I think I applied that, maybe that Tuesday.
[00:37:26] They called me back, maybe they gave me a call back that week later.
[00:37:29] Interviewed it, yada, yada.
[00:37:30] They rescheduled it to the day of my birthday.
[00:37:32] Ended getting the job.
[00:37:33] And I got a sign of bonus, all types of shit.
[00:37:35] You know what I'm saying?
[00:37:35] So it was like, dude, you can't give up.
[00:37:40] You know what I'm saying?
[00:37:41] You got to keep-
[00:37:41] That shit sound good though.
[00:37:42] It sounds good.
[00:37:43] Me and LA was doing numerology on my shit.
[00:37:45] You know what I'm saying?
[00:37:46] I'm doing the same thing for home.
[00:37:47] I'm going to tell you another job I applied for, and I thought I got it.
[00:37:50] It was a job for ESPN as a video editor.
[00:37:53] They was going to move me to Connecticut.
[00:37:55] I did great in this shit, bro.
[00:37:56] I did great, my nigga.
[00:37:57] EU, John, LA.
[00:37:58] I ain't going to know the strange shit about this though.
[00:38:00] They was going to move me.
[00:38:01] It's not Ness, it's Bristol.
[00:38:03] Bristol, yeah.
[00:38:03] So I was going to move out there.
[00:38:05] I did the interview great.
[00:38:07] Boom, boom.
[00:38:07] Killed it.
[00:38:08] She was like, I really-
[00:38:09] Me and her stop talking about work.
[00:38:11] I know I'm doing good in the interview.
[00:38:12] We stop talking about fucking work, my nigga.
[00:38:13] We talking about life.
[00:38:14] Yeah.
[00:38:15] Retreatment.
[00:38:16] Nigga, she's like, yo, I'm going to call you in a few days and we going to talk about
[00:38:19] it.
[00:38:20] We going to work this out.
[00:38:21] All right, but email.
[00:38:23] I said-
[00:38:25] Shit make you want to delete.
[00:38:26] My nigga, I said, yo, move it.
[00:38:27] I looked at how much I was going to make.
[00:38:29] I'm going to be honest with you.
[00:38:29] I said I was going to make at least 120.
[00:38:33] 120, they going to move me there.
[00:38:35] Well, then stop selling drinks.
[00:38:36] There we go.
[00:38:36] Nigga, I don't sell drinks at all.
[00:38:40] Okay.
[00:38:41] So that goes to Don's story.
[00:38:44] The importance of resilience.
[00:38:47] How to bounce back from disappointment and continue pursuing passions.
[00:38:50] Sheesh.
[00:38:51] I do think a part of the bounce back is taking a pause.
[00:38:54] Because you, I couldn't take the constant-
[00:38:58] Denial.
[00:38:59] Yeah.
[00:38:59] And not feeling guilty about it either, yo.
[00:39:01] Yeah.
[00:39:01] And not feeling guilty, but like, I know my back is against the wall, but I need to
[00:39:05] breathe.
[00:39:05] I can't keep putting myself through this-
[00:39:08] Every day I'm applying that job.
[00:39:10] You didn't get it.
[00:39:11] It's like, bro, I have, I've met all, I meet all those qualifications and more.
[00:39:14] And then sometimes you question yourself, like, yo, I'm not good enough?
[00:39:17] Like, is it me?
[00:39:19] How many times I got to revitalize my resume?
[00:39:21] Yo, Don and Ms. 2B's both sent me two different job applications at the same time.
[00:39:26] Bro, I said, yo, I'm a black and white man.
[00:39:28] Like, yo.
[00:39:29] What you got to understand though, my nigga, I'm going through the same shit, yo.
[00:39:31] Yeah, I know, I know.
[00:39:32] And I know it's all coming from a good place, because I applied to where Ms. 2B's is at.
[00:39:36] She been trying to help me through that.
[00:39:37] That didn't fall through.
[00:39:38] So obviously she feels like, yo, I bet if that didn't work, let's keep going.
[00:39:40] Same thing with Don.
[00:39:41] Like, let's keep going.
[00:39:42] But I'm like, yo, another denial is pissing me off.
[00:39:46] You do got to take a break though, because it's like, at the same time, the market's shit.
[00:39:49] So the question that I have now, so when does it come down to, I guess...
[00:39:54] Pivoting?
[00:39:54] When you go back into the field and start...
[00:39:56] Or pivoting.
[00:39:57] I guess you're pivoting, yeah.
[00:39:58] Like, when does it come down to like, we're old men.
[00:40:00] We all know what we want in life.
[00:40:01] You know, you want a home, you want a wife, you want the job, the dream car, you want to
[00:40:06] buy that dream Rolex or whatever you went to.
[00:40:08] You know what I'm saying?
[00:40:09] When does it come down to you thinking like, maybe I should do something I can tolerate
[00:40:14] doing for it to then lead into what I love to do?
[00:40:18] Rob Markman That's literally the pivot right now.
[00:40:19] That's literally the emotion I'm in right now.
[00:40:21] You know what's crazy?
[00:40:22] I was listening to somebody talk about that they lost a job.
[00:40:30] They lost a job and they've been working in this field of work for 20 years.
[00:40:37] And they worked there, they started as an intern, worked their way up to CEO.
[00:40:42] Rob Markman Damn.
[00:40:44] That's tough.
[00:40:45] Rob Markman That's tough.
[00:40:46] Good story.
[00:40:47] Rob Markman The manager, the founder of said company decided that the company is going
[00:40:53] to go in a different direction and they let the person go.
[00:40:57] But their resume is only detailed to this one field of work.
[00:41:03] So the pivot is literally them starting over.
[00:41:08] Rob Markman That had you look at the side from the bottom.
[00:41:11] Rob Markman Right.
[00:41:11] Rob Markman Again.
[00:41:12] Rob Markman And for me, it had me thinking like, damn, I've been in my field of work for
[00:41:17] nine years now.
[00:41:19] If for some reason, whatever happens and it's like, yo, everybody from 2015 and up, no,
[00:41:30] 2015 and down, we can't afford y'all.
[00:41:34] Y'all all gotta go.
[00:41:35] I'm sorry.
[00:41:35] Here's the severance package.
[00:41:36] My resume is only tailored to that.
[00:41:38] Rob Markman Hearing that person lose their job and thinking about pivoting is what made
[00:41:44] me think about like, in the event this goes awry for me, where do I go?
[00:41:51] You know?
[00:41:53] So it got me looking at certain spaces.
[00:41:56] Tech is one of those things.
[00:41:58] I actually hit up Ari.
[00:42:00] Rob Markman Which Ari?
[00:42:02] Rob Markman Spanish Ari.
[00:42:04] Rob Markman Oh.
[00:42:06] Rob Markman Rev.
[00:42:07] Rob Markman Rev.
[00:42:07] Rob Markman Rev.
[00:42:07] Rob Markman Rev.
[00:42:08] I hit her up just to ask her a question like, yo, I'm thinking about going in this space.
[00:42:18] Rob Markman Rev.
[00:42:18] Rob Markman Rev.
[00:42:18] Rob Markman Rev.
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[00:42:51] because I'm said age, do I want to-
[00:42:55] That's the next podcast episode is called, I'm too old.
[00:42:59] I'm so sorry.
[00:43:00] Rob Markman- Nah, you good, you good, you good.
[00:43:01] Rob Markman- Nah, you good, you good, you good.
[00:43:02] Rob Markman- Ask a question.
[00:43:04] Rob Markman- Maybe I got to follow up to that one.
[00:43:06] Rob Markman- Ask that question.
[00:43:07] Rob Markman- So then, you know what I'm saying?
[00:43:08] Rob Markman- So we don't want to super deep dive into it because,
[00:43:11] you know what I'm saying, that's the next episode.
[00:43:13] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:43:13] Rob Markman- Where do you now, I guess shift gears in your mind,
[00:43:17] like, all right, I'm 32 and now I have to start all over again.
[00:43:22] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:43:23] Rob Markman- Do you say, all right, I'm just going to put that in the back of my mind
[00:43:29] that I'm 32 and just look at it like a new endeavor?
[00:43:31] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:43:31] Rob Markman- First, like, damn, I'm 32 starting all over again.
[00:43:34] Rob Markman- That or you look at it like it's a new life.
[00:43:37] Rob Markman- That's a great way of thinking, actually.
[00:43:40] Rob Markman- That's good.
[00:43:41] Rob Markman- So for example, people who up and leave their state and come to a whole
[00:43:46] new state.
[00:43:47] Rob Markman- You're in a whole new industry now.
[00:43:49] Rob Markman- You're a whole new world.
[00:43:50] You're in a whole new avenue.
[00:43:52] Rob Markman- You got to think about people who live in the South where everything is kind
[00:43:57] of a hospitable, slow pace.
[00:43:59] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:44:00] Rob Markman- Coming to New York and it's a fast pace.
[00:44:01] You got to go.
[00:44:02] Rob Markman- You got to go.
[00:44:03] Rob Markman- People who up in here in New York and think that Hollywood is where it's
[00:44:07] at and how they're going to break through.
[00:44:08] They up and leave.
[00:44:09] Rob Markman- You go in there with a whole new life.
[00:44:11] Rob Markman- So technically, you may be 32 here in the physical, but you're a newborn
[00:44:18] in whatever space you choose to enter to.
[00:44:20] Rob Markman- I think you got to look at it like that.
[00:44:22] Rob Markman- Like, yo, this is a new life for me.
[00:44:24] Rob Markman- So the same way I put in nine years, I got to make some sacrifices.
[00:44:29] Rob Markman- I got to make some adjustments.
[00:44:30] Rob Markman- I got to re-bottalize because the space that I was looking to, all you see is
[00:44:35] the people who made it.
[00:44:37] Rob Markman- You don't really see the people who started it.
[00:44:40] Rob Markman- You kind of see the finished product.
[00:44:41] Rob Markman- So technically, you see them where they got the nice things.
[00:44:44] They're making a buck 60 a year, bare minimum, but you didn't see them when they was making
[00:44:49] 40 an hour.
[00:44:50] Rob Markman- They wasn't doing the content making 32 an hour.
[00:44:54] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:44:54] Rob Markman- So that grind of getting to that is what you got to readjust yourself to.
[00:45:00] Rob Markman- And then doesn't mean you flip the coin now.
[00:45:02] Rob Markman- What about when you get imposter syndrome?
[00:45:04] Rob Markman- Because I dealt with that a lot in the beginning of my career.
[00:45:06] Rob Markman- I felt like I shouldn't be here because there's people that was in my
[00:45:11] field of work since they followed the teaching of teachers.
[00:45:13] They were like 10.
[00:45:14] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:45:15] Rob Markman- Now they did what they had to do.
[00:45:17] They're 18 now.
[00:45:18] Rob Markman- And they can't even get a job I'm at.
[00:45:21] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:45:22] Rob Markman- So where do you have that borderline of not having that imposter syndrome?
[00:45:25] Rob Markman- I put the work in.
[00:45:27] Rob Markman- I belong here.
[00:45:28] Rob Markman- But then there's-
[00:45:29] Rob Markman- Who just said it's not-
[00:45:30] Rob Markman- I think Skrillz was like, it's not yours.
[00:45:34] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:45:35] Rob Markman- The yet part is when the yet is, it's yours.
[00:45:39] Rob Markman- You dropped the yet.
[00:45:40] Rob Markman- It's mine now.
[00:45:41] Rob Markman- So when it's yours, it's yours.
[00:45:45] Rob Markman- I don't care how you got it.
[00:45:47] Rob Markman- You know?
[00:45:48] Rob Markman- That's why my father always told me, you know, because there was one time,
[00:45:56] I think it was the Bread 13s.
[00:45:59] Rob Markman- I was like, dad, I want those.
[00:46:01] Rob Markman- He's like, why you want those?
[00:46:02] Rob Markman- I was like, because he got them.
[00:46:04] Rob Markman- He said, sorry, dad.
[00:46:06] Rob Markman- We're not laughing.
[00:46:07] Rob Markman- No, his dad about to say some wild shit.
[00:46:08] Rob Markman- He was like, you don't know how you got them.
[00:46:11] Rob Markman- I said, what that got to do with me wanting them?
[00:46:14] Rob Markman- I said, he was like, you don't know why, how he got them, what he did for
[00:46:18] him.
[00:46:20] Rob Markman- So why, if that's the only reason why you want them, because the next person
[00:46:23] wants them, what if he told you he sucked dick for them?
[00:46:26] Rob Markman- Would you still want them?
[00:46:31] Rob Markman- What if he robbed somebody?
[00:46:33] Rob Markman- What if he robbed the old lady?
[00:46:34] Rob Markman- What if he robbed your mom?
[00:46:36] Rob Markman- Would you still want them?
[00:46:37] Rob Markman- What if he pickpocked somebody for them?
[00:46:39] Rob Markman- What if he spent his last dollar on that?
[00:46:42] Rob Markman- You willing to do that for those?
[00:46:44] Rob Markman- So he was like, whatever you want, make sure you want it for you.
[00:46:48] Rob Markman- So where you at in life or whatever you want, as long as it's for you and not anybody
[00:46:56] else or anything to prove to anybody else, you should be happy you made it.
[00:47:03] Rob Markman- I feel like people who have imposter syndrome, because you got to think about
[00:47:09] what an imposter is.
[00:47:11] Rob Markman- Trying to be somebody else.
[00:47:12] Rob Markman- Or pretending to be somebody they're not.
[00:47:14] Rob Markman- Or be something, yeah.
[00:47:15] Rob Markman- When you define it like that, now you're going to feel like an asshole.
[00:47:18] Rob Markman- Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:47:20] Rob Markman- I feel the same way in my first start of my job.
[00:47:22] Rob Markman- You have to then realize like, nah, this is me.
[00:47:25] Rob Markman- I know who I am.
[00:47:27] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:47:27] Rob Markman- I can't look at, you know?
[00:47:29] Rob Markman- Because even when I used to do electrical work, that was an old man's sport.
[00:47:36] Rob Markman- They ain't really like young guys.
[00:47:38] Rob Markman- They did not embrace that because they looked at that as, oh, he's going to
[00:47:41] take my spot.
[00:47:41] Rob Markman- He's younger, he's faster.
[00:47:42] Rob Markman- Well, give me a coffee, my name.
[00:47:43] Rob Markman- They try to belittle you like that.
[00:47:45] Rob Markman- But at the same time, it's like, nah, I know my shit.
[00:47:49] Rob Markman- If you call out sick, I don't need to depend on you.
[00:47:54] Rob Markman- I can handle mine.
[00:47:55] Rob Markman- So once you know you can handle yours in whatever situation it is, I think that
[00:47:59] kind of decreases the feeling of, do I belong?
[00:48:02] Rob Markman- Because you shouldn't question if you belong based off of who's in the audience.
[00:48:06] Rob Markman- So it's a confidence thing.
[00:48:08] Rob Markman- And it's funny you say that because we've been in the same line of work.
[00:48:14] I'm in a lot of work now.
[00:48:15] Rob Markman- And I don't want to, I guess, pull the card, but if I am to say that, the
[00:48:22] field of work is predominantly men that are not of my ethnicity.
[00:48:29] Rob Markman- No, not even in Spanish, more so.
[00:48:33] Rob Markman- That's a Caucasian sport.
[00:48:35] Rob Markman- I mean, I didn't know that.
[00:48:36] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:48:37] Rob Markman- And you don't, I will not ever say that I've come across heavy racism in any
[00:48:45] facet of life.
[00:48:46] Rob Markman- New York is a very diverse place.
[00:48:47] Rob Markman- You know, people probably look down at you and stuff like that.
[00:48:49] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:48:50] Rob Markman- I'm a young black man full of tattoos.
[00:48:52] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:48:53] Rob Markman- What my MO is if you don't talk to me.
[00:48:54] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:48:55] Rob Markman- So where I'm going with this particular conversation is that getting in that field
[00:49:00] of work, you know what I'm saying?
[00:49:01] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:49:02] Rob Markman- There's a lot of people like that that don't want to teach you anything.
[00:49:05] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:49:05] Rob Markman- They look at you like, well, you know, you just said, you know, your apprentice
[00:49:08] what the case might be.
[00:49:09] Rob Markman- You do what you gotta do.
[00:49:10] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:49:10] Rob Markman- And you take the initiative to learn it now.
[00:49:12] Rob Markman- And you're trying to know you, when I say, when I'm showing them and I hate
[00:49:15] using the 48 laws of power, don't I outshine the master of what the case might be.
[00:49:18] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:49:19] Rob Markman- But you know what I'm saying?
[00:49:22] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:49:40] Rob Markman- So to the overall basis of the conversation is just like, you can't limit yourself due to
[00:49:47] the predicament that you're in, but then you don't want to put yourself in a box as well.
[00:49:51] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:49:52] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:49:52] Rob Markman- So that goes to my concluding question.
[00:49:57] Rob Markman- Tips on how to stay hopeful and motivated without falling into the trap of an unrealistic
[00:50:03] expectation.
[00:50:03] Rob Markman- That money.
[00:50:05] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:50:05] Rob Markman- Don't spend it before you get it, baby.
[00:50:08] Rob Markman- I'm telling you.
[00:50:09] Rob Markman- I'm telling you.
[00:50:10] Don't wipe it before you pipe it.
[00:50:11] Rob Markman- Repeat that one more time.
[00:50:14] Rob Markman- You don't know how to beat that thing.
[00:50:18] Rob Markman- You don't wipe it.
[00:50:19] Rob Markman- All of it's good.
[00:50:21] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying.
[00:50:22] Rob Markman- Let's say it for all fair.
[00:50:23] Rob Markman- Tips on how to stay helpful and motivated.
[00:50:28] Rob Markman- Hopeful.
[00:50:30] Rob Markman- Tips on how to stay hopeful and motivated without falling into the trap
[00:50:34] of unrealistic expectations.
[00:50:38] Rob Markman- Is it cliche to go to the spiritual route and just keep your faith in God?
[00:50:46] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:50:46] Rob Markman- Not everybody's spiritual.
[00:50:49] Rob Markman- Yeah, I would just say just being ... Yeah, just that and knowing that
[00:50:53] something better is at the end of the road.
[00:50:54] Rob Markman- Something like that.
[00:50:55] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:50:56] Rob Markman- Pain has never really lasted.
[00:50:58] Rob Markman- I mean ...
[00:51:00] Rob Markman- But somebody ... A pessimist could say neither has joy.
[00:51:04] Rob Markman- But you're not experiencing joy right now.
[00:51:06] Rob Markman- So ...
[00:51:07] Rob Markman- What I would say is ...
[00:51:08] Rob Markman- Sorry about that.
[00:51:09] Rob Markman- No, no, you're good, bro.
[00:51:10] Rob Markman- What I would say is the same ... If you're going to ... You know, you've
[00:51:14] probably seen this cliche example everywhere in the world.
[00:51:16] Rob Markman- The course you could have took, that's going to take two years to do.
[00:51:19] Rob Markman- If you did it at 25, you do that at 28, it's still two years of your
[00:51:22] life you got to ... You know, you're going to ... Not lose, but you know, you're going
[00:51:25] to gain.
[00:51:26] Rob Markman- So, when you see that through, that job that's paying you 40K, when you take
[00:51:31] that two year course now, it's going to pay you that 100K.
[00:51:33] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:51:34] Rob Markman- So, if you look at another aspect of like, all right, well, you know,
[00:51:37] I'm 26, making $40,000 a year.
[00:51:40] Rob Markman- I take this course, I'd be 28, I'm making 100K a year.
[00:51:44] Rob Markman- And whatever you do, if you did it at 28, it's still going to be
[00:51:47] that two years you got to do.
[00:51:48] Rob Markman- You put the time and effort in, and you put your mindset in the goals you
[00:51:52] want to achieve, you're going to get there.
[00:51:53] Rob Markman- Yeah, I think an actual belief in your abilities.
[00:51:56] Rob Markman- Like if you ... Yo, I don't know anybody ... I mean, it does take a little
[00:52:00] bit of delusion, but I don't know anybody who is supremely talented at what they want
[00:52:04] to do that truly, truly, truly believes that that shit is not for them.
[00:52:08] Rob Markman- So, as long as you keep that belief, you will find different ways to keep hammering
[00:52:13] the pavement like, yeah, I'm going to find a way in somehow, some way.
[00:52:18] And the second you lose that belief, that's when it's over.
[00:52:22] Rob Markman- Is there a big difference between belief and confidence?
[00:52:25] Rob Markman- No.
[00:52:26] Rob Markman- No, no.
[00:52:27] Rob Markman- Not at all.
[00:52:28] Rob Markman- Mm-mm.
[00:52:28] Rob Markman- I can believe in myself all the way and lose my confidence.
[00:52:33] Rob Markman- And confidence helps you believe.
[00:52:34] Rob Markman- Yeah, I'm not even ... There's a lot of things I'm not confident in right
[00:52:38] now, but that don't change my belief on where I'm going to land.
[00:52:41] Rob Markman- I just got to do what I got to do to regain my confidence and let it align
[00:52:48] with my belief.
[00:52:49] Rob Markman- There's times where I've been down bad and still believe that, yo, shit
[00:52:55] gonna get better.
[00:52:56] Rob Markman- If you don't have that belief that things are gonna get better, you're
[00:52:59] gonna be stuck in that rut.
[00:53:00] Rob Markman- Yeah, my faith, my faith, my faith.
[00:53:02] I won't always act like my faith is always at 100%.
[00:53:06] There's times where I question God.
[00:53:08] Rob Markman- Like, yo, my G, like ...
[00:53:10] Rob Markman- Why do I have to go through this though?
[00:53:11] Rob Markman- You answering your phone right now?
[00:53:13] Rob Markman- You see a collect call coming through.
[00:53:16] Rob Markman- Hello, inmate LaShawn Eileen, we're dying over here.
[00:53:20] Rob Markman- Help a nigga.
[00:53:21] Rob Markman- Bail me out.
[00:53:23] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:53:24] Rob Markman- And it's so funny, you know what I'm saying, to be going to faith and stuff
[00:53:27] like that.
[00:53:28] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:53:29] Rob Markman- Because I converted when I was 21 to Islam and stuff like that.
[00:53:33] Rob Markman- If y'all watched the podcast a long time ago, you had seen that journey
[00:53:35] and stuff like that.
[00:53:37] Rob Markman- So this time that I'll be sitting there, I'm like, damn, I'm praying, I'm doing
[00:53:41] what I got to do.
[00:53:42] Rob Markman- I'm fasting and all that.
[00:53:43] Rob Markman- I'm like, yo, I'm not trying to hear the garden.
[00:53:45] Rob Markman- What's going on?
[00:53:46] Rob Markman- I'm trying to talk to you.
[00:53:48] Rob Markman- And they be like, damn, dude, do I go back to, you know, no offense to Christians.
[00:53:50] Rob Markman- I'm going to holla at Jesus again, you know what I'm saying?
[00:53:52] Rob Markman- You know how I'm saying?
[00:53:54] Rob Markman- And it'd be like, you got to keep that faith.
[00:53:56] Rob Markman- What it is also weathering that storm that makes sense to you.
[00:54:01] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:54:01] Rob Markman- Shout out to Scripps for this very, no full comment he said to me earlier.
[00:54:06] Rob Markman- You get what I'm saying?
[00:54:07] Rob Markman- You got to just, you got to trust that what you do is the best thing for you.
[00:54:11] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:54:13] Rob Markman- I don't know.
[00:54:14] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:54:15] Rob Markman- That's it.
[00:54:16] Rob Markman- Be confident in yourself, believe what you believe in and just see it through.
[00:54:20] Rob Markman- And seeing it through, yeah.
[00:54:21] Rob Markman- Yeah, hope dwindles all the time.
[00:54:25] Rob Markman- You know?
[00:54:26] Rob Markman- Because when you get it, right?
[00:54:27] Rob Markman- Then there's something else you'll be hopeful for.
[00:54:30] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:54:31] Rob Markman- So like, we're all hoping for better paying opportunities, right?
[00:54:35] Rob Markman- Then we get it.
[00:54:36] Rob Markman- Then once we get that, there's a new hope.
[00:54:38] Rob Markman- Yeah, there's a new hope for something else, you know?
[00:54:41] Rob Markman- Hopefully when I get this amount of money, I can get a different, get a place for myself.
[00:54:46] Rob Markman- Get a place.
[00:54:46] Rob Markman- And then when you get this place, hopefully I can furnish it properly.
[00:54:50] Rob Markman- Once it's furnished, hopefully I can have somebody who stays for me.
[00:54:55] Rob Markman- I'm pretty sure we know-
[00:54:57] Rob Markman- Hope never dies.
[00:54:58] Rob Markman- Once he stopped talking, I knew he was about to go with that.
[00:55:00] Rob Markman- You know?
[00:55:00] Rob Markman- Hopefully you know.
[00:55:01] Rob Markman- I mean, for a lot of people, hope have died though.
[00:55:03] Rob Markman- What happened when you get everything?
[00:55:06] Rob Markman- To be honest with you, I think that's the worst thing anybody can believe.
[00:55:14] Rob Markman- You always want more.
[00:55:16] Rob Markman- No, that you can get everything.
[00:55:19] Rob Markman- So the fact that I don't even think like that allows me to keep wanting more.
[00:55:24] Rob Markman- Because there's not an everything.
[00:55:26] Rob Markman- There's no final level.
[00:55:28] Rob Markman- The game is never complete in life.
[00:55:30] Rob Markman- Because there's always something new.
[00:55:31] Rob Markman- You know what I'm saying?
[00:55:32] Rob Markman- There's certain places you've never seen.
[00:55:35] Rob Markman- Certain things you never acquired.
[00:55:37] Rob Markman- Certain foods you never tasted.
[00:55:40] Rob Markman- You know?
[00:55:41] Rob Markman- You know what I mean?
[00:55:43] Rob Markman- I know he's being a fuck.
[00:55:44] Rob Markman- That's right though.
[00:55:46] Rob Markman- Yeah, I feel like-
[00:55:48] Rob Markman- I don't want to fuck I have everything.
[00:55:49] Rob Markman- If you think life has an everything, you put a cap on life.
[00:55:52] Rob Markman- So you'll never enjoy it.
[00:55:54] Rob Markman- Because you're chasing to complete a game.
[00:55:56] Rob Markman- Nah, just enjoy life for what it is.
[00:55:58] Rob Markman- I'm telling you what made my eyes open up.
[00:56:00] Rob Markman- Why was seeing St. Lucia's water.
[00:56:04] Rob Markman- Like for real.
[00:56:05] Rob Markman- And I'm talking about real-
[00:56:07] Rob Markman- You go to St. Lucia and you see that water with the mountains and the-
[00:56:12] Rob Markman- You see how Skrulls talk about I love Queens because they got trees?
[00:56:17] Rob Markman- My life changed for the better just being in that country.
[00:56:22] Rob Markman- That shit is-
[00:56:22] Rob Markman- You realize how beautiful this world is and you chase eyes.
[00:56:26] Rob Markman- I want my life to reflect how beautiful this is.
[00:56:29] Rob Markman- Like shit we see in movies, like nah, I want to see that.
[00:56:31] Rob Markman- Yeah.
[00:56:31] Rob Markman- Like me seeing shit in Switzerland, like nah, I want to see that.
[00:56:33] Rob Markman- That's fucking fire bro.
[00:56:34] Rob Markman- It's so crazy you say that because I didn't travel eons.
[00:56:38] Rob Markman- And me taking a trip that I did and seeing that water and stuff like that-
[00:56:44] Rob Markman- It was such a beautiful thing.
[00:56:47] Rob Markman- We're talking about life.
[00:56:51] Rob Markman- And seeing that open my eyes, like yo, there's more than South South
[00:56:56] South Jamaica Queens, there's more to Queens, there's more to life.
[00:56:59] Rob Markman- And it has me aspiring for more.
[00:57:01] Rob Markman- Yes.
[00:57:02] Rob Markman- Even us, we talked in the group chat and when we was talking about traveling
[00:57:06] and I remember you was like, yo bro I ain't even know all this shit is out here.
[00:57:10] Rob Markman- Did not.
[00:57:11] Rob Markman- And then once you see it, it's a new hope for life.
[00:57:15] Rob Markman- I feel like it opens up your doors for like more.
[00:57:18] Rob Markman- It makes you want more.
[00:57:19] Rob Markman- Oh for sure.
[00:57:19] Rob Markman- It literally makes you want more.
[00:57:20] Rob Markman- For sure.
[00:57:20] Rob Markman- It makes you want more.
[00:57:21] Rob Markman- And then, you know, even if that the trip wasn't the best, it makes you
[00:57:25] want to share it with somebody else who-
[00:57:28] Rob Markman- Who would enjoy it.
[00:57:29] Rob Markman- Who would enjoy it.
[00:57:30] Rob Markman- No.
[00:57:31] Rob Markman- Squirrels want to jump in.
[00:57:33] Come on.
[00:57:33] Rob Markman- Come on, bro.
[00:57:34] Rob Markman- Sorry to lean over you.
[00:57:35] Rob Markman- And like say-
[00:57:36] Rob Markman- Come here.
[00:57:37] Rob Markman- Oh, just move on over.
[00:57:39] Rob Markman- Where you want?
[00:57:40] Rob Markman- Whatever works easier for you, comfortability-wise.
[00:57:44] Rob Markman- I'm like leaning over another man.
[00:57:47] Rob Markman- Yeah, you got to be careful.
[00:57:48] Rob Markman- You got to be in the camera.
[00:57:49] Rob Markman- Oh, let's fuck it.
[00:57:51] Rob Markman- Where's the candy, y'all?
[00:57:51] Rob Markman- They know what I look like.
[00:57:53] Rob Markman- Say like you're applying for a position, right?
[00:57:56] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:57:56] Rob Markman- And to you, that's like the only position you think you're worth it.
[00:57:59] Rob Markman- Like you want-
[00:58:00] Rob Markman- It's the only thing that you're like, you see yourself as.
[00:58:04] Rob Markman- You don't understand that you getting turned down from that position, you
[00:58:07] might actually see another role that actually is more fitting for you.
[00:58:11] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:58:11] Rob Markman- There was a position I wanted recently, and I was like, I had my mind set
[00:58:15] on it.
[00:58:16] Rob Markman- I was like, I'm gonna get there, I'm gonna be it.
[00:58:17] Rob Markman- I felt it.
[00:58:19] Rob Markman- I didn't get it.
[00:58:20] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:58:21] Rob Markman- Broke me up a little bit.
[00:58:22] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:58:22] Rob Markman- And then, you know, I'll see people in that position or similar positions, and I'm
[00:58:28] like, this wouldn't align with me.
[00:58:30] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:58:30] Rob Markman- Like I would have had the job, yeah, I would have had what I thought I wanted,
[00:58:35] but I don't want that.
[00:58:37] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:58:37] Rob Markman- Like I'm watching certain aspects of it, and I'm just like, that's not how I
[00:58:41] would want to live my life.
[00:58:43] Rob Markman- But you know, it opened me up and I said, you know, I thought I wanted that,
[00:58:46] but I want something more adjacent to that.
[00:58:48] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:58:48] Rob Markman- And I can look it up and I can say, okay, maybe there's something more aligned
[00:58:52] to what I have in mind.
[00:58:53] Rob Markman- So me getting turned down from that opened me up to say, okay, there's other possibilities.
[00:58:58] Rob Markman- There's a whole other world.
[00:58:59] Rob Markman- Like even when I started at nightlife, I didn't want to be seen as a promoter until
[00:59:03] I realized there's fucking white promoters making millions of dollars.
[00:59:06] Rob Markman- I'm like, the connotation of being a promoter isn't bad.
[00:59:09] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:59:09] Rob Markman- There's just different levels and there's different ways-
[00:59:11] Rob Markman- The box that Cyrus was talking about earlier.
[00:59:13] Rob Markman- Exactly.
[00:59:13] Rob Markman- There's different ways to get where you want to go, and there's different ways
[00:59:17] to do things.
[00:59:18] Rob Markman- So it opens you up.
[00:59:19] Rob Markman- So with travel or having different conversations and networking, it opens you up a little
[00:59:24] bit more.
[00:59:24] Rob Markman- So when you're in doubt, have more conversations.
[00:59:28] Rob Markman- Reach out to peers at different levels or different parts of their careers.
[00:59:32] Rob Markman- Mm-hmm.
[00:59:32] Rob Markman- And it will reassure you that there is something for you.
[00:59:36] Rob Markman- There is something for your unique talent skill.
[00:59:38] Rob Markman- There is something that you can aim for and you can achieve, but keep working
[00:59:43] on yourself.
[00:59:43] Rob Markman- When the opportunity comes, you're going to be prepared for it.
[00:59:46] Rob Markman- That's the most important thing.
[00:59:48] Rob Markman- Luck is when opportunity meets preparation, I believe.
[00:59:51] Rob Markman- So just keep preparing yourself and keep working on your skill set and when
[00:59:54] it's your time, it's your time.
[00:59:55] Rob Markman- Because you never know, you might produce the best podcast in the world and
[00:59:58] it might just be your own.
[01:00:00] Rob Markman- This nigga can't hear the part.
[01:00:03] Rob Markman- Now you can't get on-
[01:00:05] Rob Markman- It's just a dumb.
[01:00:07] Rob Markman- This is a little heavy episode of life, man.
[01:00:10] Rob Markman- You know an episode of-
[01:00:11] Rob Markman- End it right there.
[01:00:13] Rob Markman- I got to put it down with.
[01:00:15] Rob Markman- That's what you should do here at like a-
[01:00:17] Rob Markman- I got to put it down with a conference subject.
[01:00:19] Rob Markman- Hold on, I'm about to show my ass.
[01:00:21] Rob Markman- I got to put it down.
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[01:00:23] Rob Markman- Big JB shit me.
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