In this impactful episode of Punching Bag, we delve into a topic that resonates with many: the emotional toll of being the target of others' frustrations. Have you ever felt like a punching bag for someone else's anger? Join us as we explore the psychological phenomenon of emotional displacement and how it affects our mental well-being.
We begin by defining what it means to be a "punching bag" in emotional terms, shedding light on the common scenarios where this behavior manifests—whether in relationships, at work, or within families. Through personal stories and real-life examples, we highlight the signs that indicate you might be bearing the brunt of someone else's unresolved issues.
Why do some people resort to using others as emotional punching bags? We discuss the underlying causes and invite a psychologist to provide insights into these dynamics. Understanding these patterns can empower you to navigate these challenging situations more effectively.
But it’s not just about recognition; we also offer practical strategies for protecting yourself. Learn how to set healthy boundaries, engage in self-care, and seek support from friends, family, or professionals. We’ll provide valuable tips on how to confront the behavior calmly and assertively, and know when it might be time to walk away from toxic interactions.
By the end of this episode, you'll be equipped with the tools to break free from being anyone's punching bag, reclaiming your emotional energy and well-being. Don’t miss this opportunity to transform your relationships and enhance your mental health.
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[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in trouble with my hand.
[00:00:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Wrong on me.
[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Bro, I'm still waiting.
[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_03]: How much you need to push?
[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Or I mean the...
[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Let it show that.
[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I better go get a girl.
[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm having a problem.
[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that way I be like,
[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, I know this episode is fun.
[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fine.
[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But 40 minutes of whine.
[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that should be fun.
[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Say you're fucking Sanders, bro?
[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He's about to be some of this shit.
[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Huh? Yeah, both ways.
[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't wear hats?
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Who me? Nah, bro.
[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Never seen you wear a hat before.
[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in the winter, yeah.
[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Damn, right?
[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Polo beanies.
[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I need you to make one of those.
[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a fisherman in the shit.
[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_03]: The fisherman? Yeah.
[00:01:10] Scully.
[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not Jan.
[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not Jan.
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I should be like to go out there and tell my
[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Taw. He got a shitload of those
[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_03]: native guys.
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: What?
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. How?
[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fire.
[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fire.
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: This nigga is out here, bro.
[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fire. Think Sean Evans?
[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's out here.
[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's been out here.
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_00]: At least they had everybody on that shit, bro.
[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That nigga was hot when he thought of that idea.
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it was real hot.
[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what would be fire?
[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Hot wings.
[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Can we do AI to do that?
[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Sean said AI.
[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Get a fucking bottle.
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: This nigga put the shell on his shoulder.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to know. I have the cup in my hand and everything.
[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You ready?
[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_01]: This nigga is a fashion guru, bro.
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Here.
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Three. No. Two.
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: You already know what it is
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: DeGeneres. Your most favorite lover is always
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Donald. He's one.
[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Alongside of LaShawn.
[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_02]: What a beautiful day here. We are in Staten Island.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that bad out here.
[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a mob is out here. There's a few racist people.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But some good Italian food out here, man.
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: We got the Feltles in the building.
[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Quonster is in the building.
[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Joseph's in the building. And Mr. Linton
[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: is in the building.
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Govee is crazy.
[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say Abraham Linton
[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: but either way, you know what I mean.
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, it's Scott Jalais here.
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_00]: How you doing? Hi.
[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_02]: How you feeling? Pretty good.
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You feeling the cleanse or something?
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Damn.
[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm proud of you.
[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: What's that? Muff?
[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Something like that.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Something like that. What's going on?
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on? Slim.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_00]: How you feeling, Slim?
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Slim and hungry.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to eat.
[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_02]: What? Nah, I'm not going.
[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_02]: How you feeling, Nicole?
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to start with this.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's you this time.
[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: No, that wasn't wrong.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: What did I say to him, bro?
[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: What did I say to him?
[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys.
[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: What did I say to him though?
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't have to say it.
[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_02]: You implied it.
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I keep saying it sometimes.
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Tell me what I said.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You said what you said.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't win an argument with nobody.
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not supposed to go into an argument
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_00]: trying to win or lose.
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Dave Hall, baby.
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew that's where you was going to go, bro.
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: What happened?
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Long story.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Not for the part.
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Not this episode.
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Losing the part for about an hour and 30 minutes.
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to tell him, no.
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on in LA?
[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: What we got on the call sheet?
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you didn't send us one today.
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I never do.
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to start sending call sheets then.
[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I see how much I'm doing that.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Cool. Boom.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about this episode
[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: on previous episodes.
[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's finally do it.
[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The punching bag.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean, mother?
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like...
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first, let's...
[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's be Mr. Literal, right?
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you know me.
[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I am Mr. Literal.
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's...
[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I Google searched
[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_00]: what is a punching bag
[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: for?
[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen. Strength training.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Punching bag can help you improve your strength, power, and stamina.
[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You can also
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_00]: use a heavy bag too to practice punching
[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and kicking with maximum force to build
[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: your strength and endurance.
[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Cardio.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Punching bag can help you improve your cardio fitness.
[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Working out on a punching bag
[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: can push you past your cardio comfort zone
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_00]: which can help you build endurance.
[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: That makes me feel better.
[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Listen to this one. Stress relief.
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Punching bag
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: can help you release energy and frustration
[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: to reduce stress.
[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like at times
[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: the people closest to us
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_00]: use this as a punching bag.
[00:05:34] And...
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: In the moment, they may not
[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: notice because, you know,
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_00]: they're in it. But if
[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: they don't have a direct
[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: channel to release that energy,
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: because
[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: we're probably in the closest
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: facility of... Proximity.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Proximity. Good word. Of them
[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and their emotions at the time,
[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: they then release it on us.
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And...
[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's actually
[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: so much a punching bag can
[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: take before
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: it's time to go back.
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Until it breaks.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just breaks.
[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And...
[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: There was a moment of time where you
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_00]: kinda... Where I kinda realized like
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: yo, I no longer
[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: wanna be your punching bag.
[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You know...
[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't take my
[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: support and my...
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: My presence
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: as an opportunity to kinda
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: dump your frustration out.
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And... And I feel like,
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, if you don't... If you...
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you're not, you know,
[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes you don't notice it.
[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the person doesn't notice it.
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes they kinda
[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_00]: confuse their
[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: venting and their
[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: release of frustration
[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_00]: in different ways.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But the physical and emotional
[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: impact that it can take
[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: can
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: hurt. And the irony
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: of a punching bag, it helps you get
[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: stronger. They keep using
[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: you as a punching bag. It's only gonna hurt more
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: because they got stronger.
[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_02]: So what point do you tell a person like, yo, enough
[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: is enough?
[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I think noticing
[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_00]: for a while it took...
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It took for me to...
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even notice I was a
[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: punching bag for a while because, you know,
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you just... You kinda be like, yo, they going
[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: through what they going through. So you kinda
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: really don't assess it in
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: that way. You kinda realize, alright,
[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: they just going through, you know,
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: this is what they going through. And in
[00:07:41] some...
[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, sometimes you think
[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that's a part of what you're supposed to do in a relationship.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, be there
[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: quote unquote punching bag. Not in the
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: literal sense but, you know, somewhere where they could feel
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_00]: good to release their
[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_01]: frustration. Yeah.
[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But
[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: a punching bag can get worn out.
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's when you
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: ironically gotta release the punching bag
[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: from the chain. And
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: move on.
[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's for me when I
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: um... You know,
[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I got to a point where it's like, yo, I'm really
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: tired of being a punching bag. Like,
[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I get life is hard
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and I get that you would want me to
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: be here for you but the way
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for you is not
[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_00]: for you to release your
[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: frustrations out on me because maybe
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: for example, right?
[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's make this as simple
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: as possible where nobody
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: gets in trouble.
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody... You dating
[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: a person, they got a
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: hard day at work.
[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They ain't going to tell their boss, yo
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: fuck off. But they come home
[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: angry and you're like, yo,
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: what's... Oh...
[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying? Or, or,
[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: or...
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You come home from work, you got
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: home first. We all bros,
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: we on the game. We on
[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: the game. She had that same hard
[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: day at work. So I guess
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a fucking maid. I gotta clean up the dishes
[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and... And you thinking
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of yourself, damn, I'm just with the...
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: What just happened?
[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking.
[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, bro, what the fuck?
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yo, y'all you good? I'll talk to y'all later,
[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: man. I'll talk to y'all later.
[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't gonna say no,
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: but the mic just plugs out. They ain't
[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: talking no more. They was just talking
[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: all... You know somebody...
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I can say OTP, OTP,
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But y'all don't know OTP stands for
[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_02]: on the phone. Damn, Kani, you was on
[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Call of Duty at that time too?
[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, I wasn't. I was on OTP bro.
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Kani was there, but I don't think he noticed it as
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: the pattern. Nah, I didn't.
[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Damn, homie girl just came home with the mic
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and you know, like, you know Call of Duty, you can see the mics.
[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't caught that.
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You ain't tell me niggas around the corner. What the fuck you doing?
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that is one of the easiest
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: examples that I could... I easily
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: could draw up. Like, you know,
[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes it gets tough.
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It gets tougher than that. You know,
[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been in situations where... You can pass traumas.
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Not even pass traumas,
[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: new traumas. Being there where
[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: for somebody who is developing a new
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: trauma.
[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And helping them navigate
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: through that, but understanding
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: that that shit is hard for them
[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: too. It's a lot of
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: grace given.
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's only so much
[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: a person can endure.
[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I think
[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: trying to vocalize that,
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: you know,
[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: and if they're still
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: angry, then they may not
[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: hear you when
[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: you say, yo, you're abusing them.
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Or they might not take it as the
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: way you're actually saying it.
[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: recognizing the signs,
[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: right?
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You feel
[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: drained or exhausted with every
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: interaction.
[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And they think,
[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: they think you got a
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: fuse.
[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_00]: With all actuality,
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: not that they're draining
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: you, you're just fatigued.
[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: beat up.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you fatigued by?
[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Them. That means they're draining you.
[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Not innocent, but
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_00]: not in that actual
[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: instant. Right?
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so like it could be a regular
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_00]: day and they'd be like,
[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I can speak for me.
[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this is safer for me and all y'all.
[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I could be interacting with somebody
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and they'd be like, yo, you always seem
[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: like you unhappy with me.
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So they think it in this moment
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and not overall.
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But in reflection
[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: it's like, nah, I just haven't
[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: recovered. You know
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_00]: what I'm saying? It's like as much as
[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: we strength train in the gym
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You give your muscles enough time to recover. There's no rest day.
[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: You're doing seven days straight.
[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And imagine that
[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine that in
[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine that in an emotional
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: aspect. Like, damn
[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_00]: like
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what? And then if you
[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: don't check it early
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you end up the problem.
[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they look at you like, yo, you're so
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: short with me. Like, you're so agitated
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: but you never vocalize
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: like, well you know what? Not
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: that. And for me
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I kinda
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're not verbal about it how the hell would I know?
[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm hesitant on it because
[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I never want to bring up a problem when somebody
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: bringing up a problem. But technically
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: that's the best time to bring
[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: up that problem. But why you not telling me?
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't want you to get your shit off. You agree
[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_02]: with that?
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think
[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You agree with that?
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: We've got
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: quantity to stick.
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Meaning
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_04]: the best time
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_04]: to bring up a problem is when we're talking
[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: about a problem. Not the best time.
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's why I said I don't do it because I don't
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: want to be that person. But it's like
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_02]: yo bro, you're trying to figure out why I'm
[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_02]: mad I'm short with you? This is why.
[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so like say
[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_00]: in the instance of like, yo, I haven't
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: vocalized me feeling like
[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a punch bag in this relationship, right?
[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, I get it. And then she finally
[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: brings up an issue. Like
[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: yo, you being mad short, like
[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: you always seem agitated
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and then I just said, well you know why?
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's because I feel like
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, I don't like being on
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the receiving end of that. So I don't like
[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_04]: doing that.
[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So is it okay when it's a problem that's
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_04]: aligning with why you've been tight?
[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Because what if you just come out of left field
[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_04]: like oh, I'm mad about
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: something that happened three weeks ago.
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't do that.
[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You're in the wrong.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_02]: If it's aligning
[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it has to do with that.
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Why didn't you speak up before?
[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So do you think that you have to
[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: do you think that you have to
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_04]: say every problem or do you think that at a certain
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: point people should just know what it is that they're
[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: doing? You don't have to say every problem.
[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like, it depends how big
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: the problem is. You don't want to sound like you nitpicking
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: either. Cause if you say every problem
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_02]: nigga, now we're at every problem.
[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_04]: This is my life man.
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to nitpick it.
[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: This is my life. Why didn't you have to like
[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: gonna do all that. But you think that's
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_02]: another problem. You paid the light bill, right?
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thanks.
[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like oh
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You left the AC on when we went out.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean that's a huge problem.
[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Connet went up.
[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_02]: My Connetison bill came in today.
[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't mind texting me.
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_02]: This nigga sent me that mail.
[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Son of a bitch.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. I don't think
[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_04]: not that I don't think but sometimes it is
[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: a bit of a drag having
[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: to talk about what you're feeling
[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_04]: or having to
[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: say certain things when it's like bro we're
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_04]: adults. You should understand this.
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You should get that.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we all got our own.
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_04]: People are adults.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I think you put too much
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: on that bro.
[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to put too little on people.
[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I expect things from people.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't walk around with no expectations.
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: How would they know without seeing it?
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not talking about like something
[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_04]: oddly specific. I mean something that's like
[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_04]: don't speak to
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_04]: a service provider like terribly
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_04]: like don't be like if you're one of those
[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: people that you have to be talked to in that kind
[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_04]: of manner then
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_04]: but certain things I feel like
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_04]: you should just know or you should just be okay with
[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: like let me think
[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_04]: about something and get back to you.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: While you think, please
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: keep that on the top of your head.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: where was I at?
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Am I in the right episode?
[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I am.
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Boom. Constantly being
[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: blamed or criticized for things
[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_00]: beyond your control. Now we talked
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: about we did an episode called
[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of Your Control
[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and we've always talked about
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: control what you can control.
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes
[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: you know when you feel like
[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you are the
[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: blame man for every
[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and any inconvenience
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_00]: even if you play
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe a small percentage of
[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: fault, right? But
[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: the real
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: underlying issue is the person
[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: not taking accountability.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: But instead of them doing that they point you
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_00]: they put you as the blame man.
[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like damn like
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: don't make it seem like I'm
[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_00]: the reason why everything in your life
[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: is going wrong.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Or it can be
[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: one subject that literally
[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_00]: has nothing to do with you but somehow
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: we get
[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: to how LaShawn
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: played a role in this.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo bro if I leave you right now your
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: life still fucked up.
[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So let's not blame LaShawn
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: for why your life is fucked up.
[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't make me the villain in your story. Matter of fact let me leave you
[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: for two months and call you two months later
[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: like hey you still going through that?
[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh I guess it wasn't me motherfucker.
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Surprise
[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: motherfucker.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Large fries motherfucker. Apple pies
[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: motherfucker.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't do that.
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Especially if I'm here
[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: with you.
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_00]: If I want to get you out of this situation
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: no matter what the
[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_00]: situation is. But don't make
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: me feel like I gotta leave
[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_00]: for you to handle this shit on your own
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: so you can't blame me.
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You know how like say we lose
[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: something right?
[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And we all looking for it.
[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm getting frustrated
[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: with y'all but it's like yo I ain't lose
[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: this shit. You know what? I'm gonna walk away and let you find
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00]: this shit on your own.
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_02]: That takes us back to you guys was ahead for the episode.
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_02]: For the episode break.
[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad my niggas was ahead for that one.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We did that episode earlier today
[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: called
[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I Need a Break. But it wasn't
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: us initiating the break
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: right? It was us trying
[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to figure out can a break be
[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: successful? Is there such thing
[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: as a successful break?
[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_04]: A break as in? Like a break in a relationship.
[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I need a break like I need some space
[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_00]: like a break. Yeah so we kind
[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_00]: of delved into the
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: what could possibly
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: look like?
[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah that was what that was about.
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Check that episode out guys if you haven't
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_00]: seen it but yeah it's kind of like
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: let's do some
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: real assessment
[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_00]: on what you really
[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_00]: mad at.
[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you not gonna make
[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: this about me. That means that person
[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_02]: playing the victim there.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You said what?
[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Accountability. Yeah.
[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's a big word
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: in all types of relationships.
[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even talking about romantic.
[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because a punch
[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: it back don't even gotta be like
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: you know?
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: A punch it back don't even gotta
[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_00]: be romantic in a sense.
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Kwani always talks about
[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: you know
[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: you ever run into a person who always got bad
[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_00]: days. Right?
[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Dealing with them and you hearing
[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: they bad day every day.
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Damn man.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You got bad luck.
[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of feel the impact of
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: their bad days. You got
[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: you can't even be happy about your good
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: day. The day you all in they can think about the bad one is
[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_02]: tough.
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy to be here brother.
[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Or
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: what they represent.
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They may not even have a bad day
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: but you see them coming and you
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: feel their presence like oh no bad day
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_00]: coming.
[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's certain
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: situations where I could
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I so on me.
[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Where I've
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: been in where I felt like I became the punch
[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: it back and here's to
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: like the work thing is
[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: an interesting thing.
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Where they're at
[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: currently in their lives.
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They can have it all.
[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And then they could have lost it all.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And because they lost it all
[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: you know
[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_00]: the frustration of not
[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: being where they want they where they should
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: be where they were before or where they were before
[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: they now lashing out on you.
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You know because you can't how
[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: could some person lash out on life?
[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't physically
[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: lash life. But
[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: the person you doing life with is who you
[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_00]: choose.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Like even even like G
[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I know you know your situation is kind
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: of like damn I don't want to take
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: that out on nobody. So I kind of
[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: keep to myself. But even then
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: the personal taking person
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_02]: personal. Oh you're isolating yourself
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_02]: you don't fuck with me no more.
[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I'm only doing that because
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_00]: to be honest with you
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so frustrated with life.
[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to take it out on you.
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time you have to be verbal about that.
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. That all comes
[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: with maturity and accountability. Not even
[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: that like. You have to hold yourself.
[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: See the thing about maturity
[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_00]: also is like the
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: self realization of shit. Like
[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: you realize a lot about yourself
[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and then you can
[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: then speak to it.
[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of things that people do
[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_00]: that they don't know why
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: they're doing it or they or they
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_00]: can't really pinpoint it. They
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: don't have the words to
[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: equal the emotion.
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So all
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_00]: they do is just lash out or they're
[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: misusing words. Like that's not
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: the right word that you should be using. That's not
[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: how you feel. Like there's this
[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: there was
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: there was a woman I was dating
[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: in X amount. She she she kind
[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of always used like a particular word
[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and let's say
[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: the word was sad
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and there is something called like an emotional
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_00]: chart. And I sent her the chart
[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm like look at this chart
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: and tell me how you feel
[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_00]: because you always say sad.
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_00]: No. Drain? And then
[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_00]: she was able to look at the chart
[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: and then she was able to speak to the words
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that she was feeling.
[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we were really able to
[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_00]: dig deep in. Dig deep.
[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. In a lot of words whatever it was.
[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. So sometimes
[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: you know you the simplest
[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: word of like sad or happy
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: or this that and a third. Nah
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that's not what we talking about.
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: What do you really feel
[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: that and then we could then
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: speak to that. You have to be able to speak
[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: to how you feel.
[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You do that then
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: both of us is gonna feel less like a
[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: punchy bag. You gonna be able to find the right words
[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: you know what I'm saying?
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you can't just jab jab jab jab jab jab.
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: All you know is a jab. No hook.
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: No no counter
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_02]: no nothing. It's crazy what I was talking
[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_02]: about third piece the other day. Like I
[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I expressed how I was feeling. I said something
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like that too. I was like one day I was like
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_02]: sad. She was like tell me how you feel like what was it about?
[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like y'all just don't
[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_02]: know what's going on. I'm trying to
[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_02]: she's like yo you're not sad. You're just anxious as
[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: fuck. There you go.
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So look look look.
[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking at the word
[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: graphic right now right. So the
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_00]: main word that people use
[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: is like happy, surprised, bad
[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: fearful, angry,
[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: disgusted, sad right.
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But within the word
[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: sad other words you got
[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: lonely, vulnerable, guilty,
[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_00]: depressed, hurt.
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You could feel isolated, abandoned,
[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: victimized, fragile, grief,
[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_00]: powerless, ashamed,
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: remorseful, empty, inferior,
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: disappointed, embarrassed.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Those are all different than sad. But people would just
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_00]: say sad and mean a bunch of those
[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_00]: things. I can't help you with that if
[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: you're just using the word sad. What are you sad about? I don't know.
[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know but then
[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_00]: she was like one of the words
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_00]: she used was abandoned.
[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we can talk.
[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I know
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_00]: you telling me you sad but you really meant
[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: abandoned. Okay why do
[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you feel abandoned?
[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Does this mean I need to show
[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: up more? Or if it's not about
[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: me who abandoned you?
[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Now we can really. How do we work through this?
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. So I feel like sometimes people
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: don't use the right words.
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I know we say on this
[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_00]: pod all the time, words
[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_00]: mean things and I take things in the literal
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_00]: sense because of that. Words mean
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: things. Don't tell me you sad and you feel
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_00]: isolated.
[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to think isolated when
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: you say sad.
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying? So if you feel isolated, do
[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: you want people around or do you want
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to stay isolated? You know one
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: of the words here
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_00]: was within sad was
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: grief.
[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Does that make a person like not
[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: emotionally intelligent or like?
[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: In the literal sense
[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_06]: yes. Yes.
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: That is a part of emotional
[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: intelligence using the right words
[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_00]: to assess your feelings.
[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But people don't really practice that.
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm 33.
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to think about it.
[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm 33.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying? My goal
[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: in life is to try to put this on game
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: to a 23 year old
[00:25:42] [SPEAKER_00]: or a 28 year
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: old. You know what I'm saying? Oh
[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: fuck it a 13 year old. When I have
[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: children this chart is going to be on
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: the wall. So they
[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: are going to
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: really know how to use their words.
[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like hey, how was school today?
[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00]: School made me sad. Alright let's look at sad
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and let's see what other
[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: word you can fill on it.
[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But one of the things is grief
[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: right? People grieving
[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: you know grieving is a tough thing.
[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't have an expiration date.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like sometimes people
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: put an expiration date on grieving
[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_00]: or maybe they
[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: or time right?
[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just not how it works.
[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you know
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_00]: how people learn how to cope
[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_00]: with death
[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you understand
[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it's not black and white.
[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And I deal with black and white
[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: but that's the only thing that I
[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: allow gray areas on.
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you could be happy today
[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and that thought of a person
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_00]: not even that the minute everybody
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: leaves here and you by yourself
[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that's when it hits you.
[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Isolation and grief at the same time.
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And then if you
[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: if people
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_00]: take it out on you
[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_00]: you know what I'm saying? I can
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_00]: understand that but at the same time
[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah grief
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: because I've been there for somebody
[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: during their grieving stage
[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's not pretty.
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not pretty you angry with life
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and I get it you know what I'm saying?
[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Add the question why that starts kicking your
[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_02]: ass and then now you upset at it.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: So you got
[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_00]: that you got
[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_00]: there are certain things people losing
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: their job you know.
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_00]: That's grief still. Yeah that
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: this mark yeah but that's more
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that's a financial
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: events.
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Opposed to physical. Even speaking
[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: about that like looking at that
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_02]: seen a video a few days ago
[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever the hell I saw it.
[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Tyrese like the grieving
[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_02]: he was like yeah I lost this I lost that lost
[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: to my mom I lost my sisters I lost that
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm watching him break down I was like damn.
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That and the divorce of his wife.
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Now see
[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_00]: here's the interesting thing right? He
[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if he's
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: still wet shorty but he had moved on.
[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And he got to be careful.
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You can still see the pain
[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: in his eyes like he's not
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: fully moved on yet like moving even
[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: that moving on that
[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: griefing like not being with that person
[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_02]: is moving on that's a whole different thing in itself.
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna make this a little
[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_00]: bit more lighthearted. I notice
[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe's mic hands and move that all.
[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna make this a little
[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_00]: bit more lighthearted. I throw
[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: a joke in there.
[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The girl you're dating her ex
[00:28:40] die.
[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_00]: How long you let her grieve for that?
[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: What should be here?
[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Did I kill him? Bigger boy?
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a Kanye shit right?
[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_02]: She said did I kill him.
[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a Kanye shit.
[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Grieving fiver bro. Really?
[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not something I need to see.
[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Really?
[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean even if I
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_04]: said what I said.
[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't care. I don't need to see that.
[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Really? You? Grieving her ex?
[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_04]: In front of me? Why would I need
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_04]: to see that? Why do I want to see that?
[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I ain't gonna throw that n***a
[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_04]: in the face. I don't know.
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Why do I want to see that? I don't wanna see grief
[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: on any level. Oh so you
[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_02]: miss him? No I ain't miss him.
[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_02]: What is it? Why does it bother you
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_02]: though is the question? Why would it bother you?
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_00]: This is somebody she loved
[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: at one point. I get it.
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying
[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_04]: don't grieve. Just don't do it around you.
[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a rock Kwan. On the ex.
[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me tell you something.
[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: If it's an ex yeah but
[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean not your regular ex.
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're friends for a little while I'm gonna
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: never see you as a human. I've never seen you as a human
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_02]: until today.
[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_02]: That n***a said
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That n***a said. What the f*** are you talking
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: about n***a?
[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm good of.
[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying? LA next time make sure you bring that
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: red one again. Kwan being himself.
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I like that. So y'all that's valid
[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_04]: with y'all.
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_04]: The thing about G is
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: he's very strong. It sounds crazy.
[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll console her but it's like
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't gonna fight. Stop making me sound crazy.
[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a soul dog.
[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So you don't wanna do it but you'll do
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: it. I'm gonna do it because that's my lady.
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course but you don't want
[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_04]: that though.
[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all y'all made me sound
[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_04]: crazy.
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: First and foremost
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: right. Don't
[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: mind that I use you as an ex.
[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: God forbid you pass away.
[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Before your time.
[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And I would fully expect
[00:30:53] if
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: was in a situation
[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_00]: she would be at your funeral
[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_00]: front row.
[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Her n***a gotta eat that.
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: That's your funeral.
[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Her funeral is crazy bro.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: She would be front row with his mom.
[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_04]: What?
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I think.
[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I do know who you're talking about.
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_02]: not even that.
[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all n****s ain't allowed to have this.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what he's talking about.
[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking about the
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Are we talking about soon
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: or in like five years
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: God forbid.
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a time thing.
[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: What if she
[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_04]: really rolled the f*** on bro?
[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. I'm talking about
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_04]: in general.
[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Front row with
[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the family.
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright so if it happened like
[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: let's say
[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_00]: not go over right.
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Not go over.
[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And I knew you was going to do that.
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead man.
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: If it was next year she would be front row.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_00]: For sure. Front row.
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Two years? Front row.
[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Possibly.
[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe five years is where I start.
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_00]: New n***a? Five years?
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That's where I'd be like damn you can't be front row.
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_00]: No no no.
[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: New n***a?
[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You got a year.
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Then to see
[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: get further back.
[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh he trying.
[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_02]: N***s ain't even watching
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_02]: on zoom.
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They ain't watching on zoom and cry.
[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_02]: This is f***ing out of here.
[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Ya'll can get that off?
[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Ya'll can go to your ex's funeral?
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Ya'll can get that off? Not your man's.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yo what the f***?
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Can ya'll get that off?
[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering though.
[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably two.
[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Ain't valid.
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Front row?
[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Front row for
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: my first one?
[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably not but probably second row.
[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_04]: How are you explaining that?
[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: To my girl?
[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pay my respects to the love of my life.
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I do love the love of my life.
[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I have some respect.
[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Say something.
[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Say something G.
[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Say something G.
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Say something.
[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not supposed to love my life.
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Gaffer did.
[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_04]: How do you even get that off?
[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And how do you
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: receive that?
[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine me
[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_02]: taking care of the minute.
[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Gaffer B, imagine me going to
[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_02]: f***ing artist.
[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Gaffer B is not going to look.
[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: How would that play out?
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's insane.
[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Woo!
[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Are we talking about going
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: or are we talking about front row?
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: We talking about what you said.
[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Front row with the parents.
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. I don't think that would be front row.
[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_04]: She might
[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_04]: go say a word.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would still go.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So we're not talking about going to the funeral.
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about where we sit within this year.
[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So at bare minimum, you're going to go.
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_04]: You can get that off.
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Hold on.
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm certainly going to her ex and she from her home.
[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Out of all the women that I've
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_00]: loved in my life.
[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: This tangent is crazy.
[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This shit got so...
[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I do a reggie
[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and you want me quiet?
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's so fun.
[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to four out of the five.
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_00]: As f***ed up as it sounds, one of them go.
[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I still a beast though.
[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a wild part, but I know the f***ing beat of it all.
[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Facts.
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still a beast.
[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the ones you're going to is the first one.
[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Is the one of yours.
[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That one I might be second row.
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_04]: If not one.
[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_04]: That was years ago.
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: F*** no.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Elizabeth.
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And this was years ago.
[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Elizabeth was when I was 17.
[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So you telling me
[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: you about to get that off at 33?
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Or at 30 something?
[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_04]: She has to understand that?
[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: How is it her and not her though?
[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_04]: We very understanding.
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know Elizabeth, but I know who that is.
[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I would go to hers.
[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, I would go.
[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I would say he's cool with the posse.
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I would go. I would go. I would go back row.
[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Back row. Support.
[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably sit in the back row.
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, LA came, signed a book.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Niggas said, show face. You want a card?
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, facts. You know what I'm saying?
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: The only way I go to that one
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: that I asked to LaVisa.
[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I came in and see my office.
[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Facts.
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Take a big Fendi.
[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Fendi.
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a fact.
[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_04]: That was crazy. My first question.
[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_04]: My first question.
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Bro, what the f***?
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Bro, my first question. How did you even get the invite?
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a funeral.
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_04]: The f***?
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_04]: They got an RVP there?
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_04]: What?
[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Niggas is, you can't just
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They're not giving funeral invites to random people.
[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Bro, they're giving a funeral invite.
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I got a funeral invite.
[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_04]: So nobody invites you and you're going to take it upon yourself to go?
[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a funeral.
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Church is a public place.
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Bro, it's not an event break, bro. Pull up, bro.
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Niggas got girls.
[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Niggas said, I gotta get a resi.
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: It's tough.
[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_02]: What the f***?
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm in here with some good guys, bro.
[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_04]: This is crazy, nigga.
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_04]: What?
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Niggas got an invite?
[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never been invited.
[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Niggas said you're all funerals this time.
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I bet.
[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't put any credence to the term.
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't put any credence to the term.
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pay my respects.
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_04]: No.
[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Go to the grave.
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_00]: That's even worse.
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to sit there and cry and hop on the grave like that.
[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me what you're looking at.
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, you telling me
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_00]: like, yo, your ex
[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: said, you know,
[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I love you.
[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You are who I'm with. Me going there
[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: does not change
[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: what you and I have.
[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to pay the respects
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_00]: of somebody who I really care about.
[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not talking about front row.
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We're not just talking about being in that tenet.
[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean,
[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_04]: listen, I'm not going to be
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: happy about it, but
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_04]: people are their own people.
[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to do whatever they want.
[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I would not be happy about it.
[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I wouldn't take it personally. I respect it.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to see you front rowing.
[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm watching this on Zoom, I don't want to see you crying on the floor.
[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Now we got an issue.
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: What if they ask you to give a speech?
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Speech? Bugging.
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_04]: See, you bugging. Come on now. You bugging.
[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_04]: What you even doing there? You on a stage?
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_04]: You bugging.
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_04]: We got something to say.
[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_04]: What you had to say so bad.
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Nah.
[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Where did she co-wrote the eulogy?
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_04]: See? Whoa.
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_04]: It's over with, bro.
[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Crazy. You get home, right?
[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You wonder why I got to add to it.
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Now you're a real punchy man.
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, they think you want to be Michelle Obama.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be speechless.
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_02]: You think you want to talk?
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck out of here, bro.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Now niggas writing dissertations and all this other shit.
[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Get the fuck out of my face, bro.
[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see how y'all get that off.
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, hopefully.
[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a wild tangent.
[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I need a job to talk.
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying? L.A. is going on for a minute.
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright. So boom.
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Why other people could use you as a punch bag, right?
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Underline the causes.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Discuss psychological reasons why people
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: displace their anger onto others.
[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about that.
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Explore how stress, unresolved issues, and lack of healing coping mechanisms contribute to this behavior.
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We kind of talked about that as well.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We gave insight. We did that.
[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Us protecting ourselves.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's establishing and maintaining healthy boundaries.
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And how to communicate your limits.
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Now usually we have partners, we don't give them limits.
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But with therapy...
[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to recover.
[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That was one of our favorite episodes.
[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's okay to give your partner a limit.
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I ain't going to front.
[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we really treat our personal relationships
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_00]: or our significant others like a black card.
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no limit.
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, you got to limit.
[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't going to front. Not today. Not right now though.
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Not even that. I just don't like the way you're talking to me.
[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Babe this is not a reflection of who you are right now.
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a limit. Like stop.
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great way to say it though.
[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Finally.
[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Finally I feel like...
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go for a not shaky sound that's fucking insane.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Niggas see you embarrass me.
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I literally watched that clip on the Regalite.
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what?
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, bro I'm going to front.
[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_02]: They be giving us a box that gets fucking rooted shit.
[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_02]: This nigga's an ass.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That episode had nothing to do with me.
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I hate that episode now.
[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, giving somebody a limit.
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like hey, you're doing too much.
[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Men can have consent too.
[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Stop you ODing.
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I understand you upset.
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not your opponent.
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have beef.
[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Matter of fact this beef is mad one sided.
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I love you gang.
[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_05]: You're funny.
[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't even doing nothing to you.
[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo, give your partner limits.
[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've been letting you...
[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And then you let somebody get away with something for too long.
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you feel your girl.
[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to be delicate.
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you don't...
[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_00]: What you over there giving me bro?
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I forget.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a slippery slope.
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think it's healthier for yourself.
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a proponent of teaching people how to love you.
[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not one of those...
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't know how to love me?
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I will write it out for you.
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Teach me how to love you.
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, flat out. Good note.
[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I tried.
[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for hitting.
[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_04]: You hit the shit out of his hand.
[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Niggas hit your wrist actually.
[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_02]: My niggas smacked my dick.
[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_02]: My callus is red bro.
[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Teach you how to love me.
[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really on point with like...
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yo, tell somebody how to love you.
[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll write it out for you.
[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: This is how I want to be loved.
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Anything out of these guidelines is not how I want to be loved.
[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's plain and simple, right?
[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So when you are not doing that...
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey!
[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Return to the tag.
[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think that's how you create a good boundary with you and your partner.
[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_00]: A limit.
[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_00]: My limit with you may go a little bit further than an average human on the street.
[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But you not gonna talk to me any type of way because you have a limit.
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my man. We're crossing that line.
[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Then you go.
[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: There is a line.
[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like we go into relationships not giving people a line or at least telling them that line.
[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Or you know what? Because you my girl and I love you.
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: They think there's not a line.
[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But there is a line and they're crossing it and that's where we're wrong too by never telling them where the line is.
[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_02]: You gotta treat her like you're little...
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Nah, see that's where we fucked up.
[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what that's the part about.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, come on.
[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Nah, this is the line. Right here.
[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_00]: How do you do that?
[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: You go away over here.
[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Remember, you could with the Superman...
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean the...
[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: What's that mean? When somebody hold a Superman by the cake?
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta pull they ass right back over that line, bro.
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah.
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: What did you just say, Kwan? You gotta do what?
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_04]: You gotta do it at the first sign of things.
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for sure. You gotta establish it.
[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_04]: It is a slippery slope. I don't know if you guys ever watched it.
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You talking about my thing? You talking about dope?
[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've got that ASAP.
[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_04]: ASAP, ASAP. I've never ever ever forgot it after he said that in that movie.
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, slippery slope. Once you let it slide one time...
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: He's slipping all over the place.
[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: He's slipping in jail on the next one.
[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Two separate things.
[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_04]: On scene and shit.
[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Shout out to Dayton.
[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Leave us out of that, please.
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_04]: If you don't address it right then and there or right as it happened.
[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Or I guess in the first couple times.
[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the first time is like,
[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to let you go with that one.
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But don't take a mile.
[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_04]: When niggas take a mile, you settle down, relax, you explain things.
[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And after that, they know.
[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Because my thing is I also agree with you.
[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't assume that everybody knows how to treat me.
[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_04]: How to do this and do that.
[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_04]: So have a clear cut thing to follow.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why I said nitpicking is okay because it's your life.
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: You literally have a way that you like to do things.
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_04]: You have a way that you want to do things.
[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_04]: You've been that way for 30 plus years for somebody to come in your life now and not do the things you want them to do.
[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Or not do that. Nah.
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Hey.
[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Do that. Do this.
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_04]: You're not doing this?
[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_04]: What you said? Refer to this?
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so that's why I'm a huge advocate for nitpicking.
[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about Juan.
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm an advocate for nitpicking.
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so before we get out of here.
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: We already talked about confronting the behavior.
[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: If nothing changes, when to walk away.
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Recognizing when it's time to distance yourself or end a toxic relationship.
[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The importance of prioritizing your mental health and well-being.
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no work being done. I'm out of here.
[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the part in life.
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Being a punching bag, you know, you've known me for the longest.
[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: You know I've always struggled with being the villain in somebody's story.
[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like being the punching bag, being that person's punching bag is when I realized I'm okay with being the villain.
[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't punch.
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying? Most people critique a Batman as like, yo he over abused.
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You already caught the...
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you still snuffing the shit out of him?
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I caught him!
[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it just bring me in.
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_00]: The original Batman with the pals?
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_00]: You bad pals bro! Look like a big Sean chain.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, yo no.
[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm okay with walking away because it's either one or two things.
[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I walk away and I'm the villain or I walk away and I still get punched up.
[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Either way, I'm not the good guy.
[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You're not winning at all.
[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: No. So for me it was like, I have to prioritize my mental health.
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to look at the situation and say, everything that's going on in my life.
[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_00]: What do I like? What do I don't like?
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_00]: What's making me happy? What's not making me happy?
[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_00]: If that means, if being in your life means that I'm the person who takes your bright hook less hook.
[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Ain't it your jam?
[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I can't do it no more.
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: The bag is done up.
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Ain't no more. Ain't nothing in this.
[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_00]: You know how hard it is to punch a sandbag till it bursts?
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a difficult task.
[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Now is it harder to take doses or to walk away?
[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_00]: As crazy as it sounds to the person, they'll never understand.
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But walking away was way harder than taking another hit from you.
[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm used to the hit. I'm not used to not being with you.
[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So they may look at it as, oh he quit on me or he don't fuck with me or you left me.
[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't take it no more.
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't take it no more.
[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was actually harder walking away from you than it was taking another hit.
[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because technically, as crazy as it is, people use Stockholm Syndrome for physical abuse.
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But emotional abuse, emotional and verbal abuse, and staying with that person
[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_00]: because you think that's how they lash out and you think that's a part of the argument
[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_00]: or you hope that it'll change.
[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_00]: It takes seven times.
[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Us as men, we go through that shit too.
[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_00]: We got Stockholm Syndrome with a couple of people that we stayed it out
[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_00]: because fuck it, we chalked it up to love.
[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_00]: We chalked it up to the optimism of this shit getting better.
[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Until you take that last punch and be like, yeah, enough is enough.
[00:48:31] Yeah.
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Damn, this was like a, yo, yeah, like a comments.
[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you fucking kidding me right now?
[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Look at Cole Junkwine back on their dance moves.
[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's done here.
[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yo, you already know what it is.
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: It's Don, the camera guy, Don Peasley.
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Just Don everything.
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You can follow me at StayFocusLA on Instagram and Twitter.
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[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_00]: All things What's a Good God coming out every Monday at 8 a.m.
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_00]: on what'sagoodgod.com live on YouTube at, you know, I try to get it out at 12 o'clock in the morning
[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_00]: for the people for the night hours who, you know, I try to somebody at hit me.
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_02]: You doing for night nurses?
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.
[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yo.
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_04]: He did the science.
[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He did the math.
[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_02]: That shit make a lot of sense.
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: 12 hour shifts.
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: We caught.
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: We caught.
[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: We caught.
[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_00]: 314.
[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_02]: 413.
[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We caught.
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He caught me red handed.
[00:49:33] Fuck.
[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, shout out to all my nurses.
[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to T.
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_00]: T-Motel.
[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Clean that up.
[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to T, man.
[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We love you, T.
[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to JB too.
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to the whole family.
[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to the whole family.
[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Some people that just graduated recently.
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to y'all.
[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Do your thing.
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to all the new nurses.
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Gang.
[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Gang.
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: LA out here hunting.
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I gotta go home.
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: That was nice.
[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you can listen to us on all DSPs.
[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Sirius.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Apple.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Spotify.
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_00]: SoundCloud.
[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_00]: SoundCloud.
[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, I haven't uploaded SoundCloud in years, bro.
[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and of course you can watch us on YouTube.
[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I said that.
[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's get out of here.
[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We recorded four episodes today.
[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck with us, man.
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what it is.
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all stay cool.
[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all be cool, man.
[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And as always, as always, and it will never change.
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_00]: God is good.
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: All the time, baby.
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir.

